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 on: Today at 04:33:31 PM 
Started by DesertHOG - Last post by lowflight
I had 8 bad k & n 171c filters a while back they were very hard to start on there if they would start at all however when they did it was hard to spin on and would not spin all the way on without a lot of force when I called them and ask about it they said that they are made somewhere else no and wanted me to send them a video and pitchers of me trying to put them on and wanted to know if the threads were clean and not messed up and what not I said I have been changing my own oil for 35 years or so I know what im doing its not the bike he insisted on a video a pitchers I said stick them up your a++ I will never by a k & n product again I cant rember what I paid for them I was mad as he!! and did not care about the money and told him I have used these filters for years but to no avail     

You must have talked to the wrong person that day. I had 5 on the shelf with the same issue. I called them and asked about it stating their web site has these as the correct filter. They told me they did a manufacturing change sometime in 2016. Asked when and where I bought them, heck I didn't know, bought em on line. Had me send them a picture of the 5 filters smashed so they couldn't be used, I got 5 new filters via UPS the next day! This is within the last month or so. Haven't used one yet, but I was really pleased with the response.

 on: Today at 04:11:10 PM 
Started by Kclarke - Last post by chinashop bull
Just entered a dyno shootout with the torque cam in my CVO, pulled 107hp 130Tq, love the cam

That's around 6 hp and 12tq more than any other bike with the Torque cam I know of.  Mine included.    The usually pull 96-101hp / 115-118tq

 on: Today at 04:08:41 PM 
Started by SDCVO - Last post by chinashop bull
You do realize that comment makes no sense, right?  If Harley knows what it's doing as well as Porsche, why are we even having this discussion and why are they still having failures two years after releasing the M8 engines?  If Harley had such a talented staff, why did they have to subcontract the design of the Revolution engine to Porsche?  If Harley has such great experts on oiling systems, why did they have to delay the Twin Cam introduction due to oiling issues back in 1998/99?  Yes they've had dry sump engines going back to the 1930's.  But yes, they've also had plenty of serious issues over all those years as well.  And that's just the oiling system, let's not open up the rest of the can of worms concerning all the wonderful design and engineering issues they've produced over many decades.  What's worse than all the mistakes is their response to all those mistakes, which usually consists of blowing them off and making the customers eat the cost of fixing those mistakes. 


Seems some here are not familiar with Porsche's own engine woes.  Look up M96 and later M97  engine IMS failures.  Here's a list for just that engine:
Rear Main Seal Leaks
Intermediate Shaft Bearing Failures
Cylinder Liner Cracks
Engine Casting Porosity
Chain Tensioner Failures
Cylinder Head Cracks
Cylinder Head Cracks
Connecting Rod Bolt Failures

A class action was taken in 2013 over the Intermediate Shaft Bearing Failures agreed to compensate owners of engines buikkt between 2001 and 2005.  That's up to 12 years for restitution.  Wow!

Now if Harley has to replace each M8 with either a complete new motor or new pump and cases they will surely go broke.  I think they are on the right path even as I would prefer a fix now.

Variocam Solenoids

 on: Today at 04:03:38 PM 
Started by ZVO - Last post by skratch
now you'll be able to change your comment line, 'holding out for a m8' is going to soon be outdated   :2vrolijk_21:

btw, i really dug the ghost flames cvo.  if only it was available as a road glide.....

 on: Today at 03:58:24 PM 
Started by 2002FXDWG3 - Last post by 2002FXDWG3
Ah, I missed that detail.  Ironically, I was thinking, "could they even sell 10 of these?" LOL.

 on: Today at 03:31:24 PM 
Started by 2002FXDWG3 - Last post by Twolanerider
Something they're only building 10 of and only selling through the museum doesn't count as production nor "pivot."  It's just some relatively timid PR.

 on: Today at 03:00:40 PM 
Started by ZVO - Last post by ZVO
Yes...I’ll post pics..I’ve decided yes.

 on: Today at 02:44:07 PM 
Started by 2002FXDWG3 - Last post by 2002FXDWG3

Seriously?  A $4,200 antique bike replica is their new product???

 on: Today at 01:45:54 PM 
Started by SDCVO - Last post by odessyblueIke
Running for any length of time at higher rpm's may in fact play a part in the sumping issue, but that doesn't mean people should blame those who ride at 4000 rpm versus chugging along at 2200 like many Harley riders tend to do.  The problem is fairly basic, there is more oil being pumped into the engine than is being returned to the oil pan, until the dry sump is overloaded with oil.  The oil pumps are constant displacement units, so the faster you spin them the more oil they pump.  Think about it.  At 4000 rpm for instance, in theory the pump can pump twice as much oil as it can at 2000 rpm.  If the return side of the system has a bottleneck that limits the amount of oil that can be sent back to the pan, and that bottleneck translates to only allowing enough flow to balance the supply side at 3000 rpm or less as an example, the guys running higher rpms for longer periods of time would be more likely to experience the problem.  A properly designed and manufactured system should be able to handle maximum rpms for extended periods of time with no backup of oil in the system.  If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't see dry sump engines in so many race cars.  I think I remember suggesting way back at the beginning of this saga that the aces at H-D might want to consult with the folks from Porsche if they couldn't quickly figure out this sumping issue.  Porsche doesn't have sumping problems running at more than double the rpms of Harley's engines.  And Porsche designed the most trouble free engine Harley has ever produced, the Revolution, proving it can be done but obviously not by the folks working at Harley.  Proving once again top quality engineering is much more important than just hanging your hat on styling for the past thirty years. 

JMHO - Jerry

I wasn't insinuating anyone was at fault, I was just curious if the problem was related to a higher constant RPM.   I  just stick to the recommended shift range in the manual. doesn't feel like its lugging at all.  I have spoke to several folks who pretty much run in the same range as I do, just to see if maybe I was doing something wrong.

 on: Today at 01:32:54 PM 
Started by ZVO - Last post by skratch
you only live once..... you can't take it with you....  you gotta do what makes you happy.....

how many more do i need to give you?  if it doesn't put you in an adverse financial position, go for it.  post pics  :2vrolijk_21:

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