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[4fun]

This has got to be frustrating!  Months without being able to ride sucks. Maybe the dealer will work with you to get a new 18 model.

Extremely, especially since we have been having unseasonably  warm days.

None of the new ones called out to me like my gold rush did.

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[Eddie Haskell]

Wouldn’t limiters in the lifter eliminate lifter failure entirely? It seems the stronger CVO springs are being blamed for the failures so...


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[sadunbar]

Wouldn’t limiters in the lifter eliminate lifter failure entirely? It seems the stronger CVO springs are being blamed for the failures so...


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How?

All lifter limiters do is reduce the amount of lifter piston travel from .200 to .100...

 

[Twolanerider]

Wouldn’t limiters in the lifter eliminate lifter failure entirely? It seems the stronger CVO springs are being blamed for the failures so...


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How would limiting the internal travel of the hydraulic lifter at all mitigate failure of the rollers and the other wear commonly experienced in the lifters?

[Twolanerider]

How?

All lifter limiters do is reduce the amount of lifter piston travel from .200 to .100...

Yeah, what he said.... 

[Eddie Haskell]

I didn’t realize the roller was the part that was failing, I assumed the plunger was the issue. Why then do higher quality roller lifters fail as well?


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[Twolanerider]

I didn’t realize the roller was the part that was failing, I assumed the plunger was the issue. Why then do higher quality roller lifters fail as well?


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Because it's a systemic problem rather than just the lifters.  Some have proved better endurance than others for sure.  But it's not a problem whose root is singular.

[HD Street Performance]

Because it's a systemic problem rather than just the lifters.  Some have proved better endurance than others for sure.  But it's not a problem whose root is singular.

Well said and the solutions are well documented.

[4fun]

Hopefully the final update! Just picked it from the dealer today. Sounds way better now. They installed the S&S premium lifters instead of the Harley stock lifters at no additional cost.

At this point, I would like to put a recommendation out there for Tramontin Harley Davidson located in Hope, NJ. Especially Ken and Brad.

They were really good to work with and no hesitation to do the lifter replacement. No "They all do that" comments at all.

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[johnsachs]

If you want bullet proof, try the Isky "EZ-Riders" lifters, non-roller bearings. 
John

[sadunbar]

If you want bullet proof, try the Isky "EZ-Riders" lifters, non-roller bearings. 
John

You have tested these with some mileage, John?

http://www.enginelabs.com/engine-tech/cam-valvetrain/isky-cams-takes-mystery-out-of-bushing-style-roller-lifters/

[HD Street Performance]

Time will tell. The idea is not new but incorporating bushings in a hydraulic roller is definitely new. Morel has purposely avoided hydraulic bushing rollers for some solid reasons. We will see how this plays out and if the bushings live. The stock CVO110 is a good testing sample. It is not uncommon to hear of the stock lifters failing on bikes with under 10k miles.

[J.D.]

Even if these fail slightly sooner than those with needle bearings, they won't likely take out the entire engine.

[sadunbar]

Even if these fail slightly sooner than those with needle bearings, they won't likely take out the entire engine.

A failed bushing will fill the motor with debris too, just a different type debris...

[Twolanerider]

A failed bushing will fill the motor with debris too, just a different type debris...

Shavings and chunks rather than rollers and shaving and chunks.  The only good option is none of the above.