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Re: Bike hit a wall in 4,5 and 6th
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2017, 11:23:23 PM »

Colorado Tom, TOTALLY disagree with you. Driven race cars & bikes. people using your approach have repeatable et's But are slow. Real
racers leave line at redline & shift just at peak.
110's are still pulling at 5500, bike is still accelerating & unless u have changed redline u have to shift then due to factory redline & corresponding shutdown. People who shift at 4200 or some other arbitrary number for torque peak, are just slow.
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Re: Bike hit a wall in 4,5 and 6th
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2017, 09:29:58 AM »

Where this will affect me is planning to get a sidecar. If I choose to pass anyone, I have to stay within the 2000-3500 rpm range. If a hill is factored in, it sucks. Sure I could get going from a standstill nice but what if behind a slow vehicle on a secondary road?
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Re: Bike hit a wall in 4,5 and 6th
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2017, 09:44:03 AM »

I've got a 2016 as well. Me and my lady probably total about 370lb. I had no problem doing 120mph and that is were it shut down at. But mine is a road glide and everyone knows road glides are the fastest bike ;D
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Re: Bike hit a wall in 4,5 and 6th
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2017, 09:44:39 AM »

Most Harley guys probably never see 4200.   ::)
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Re: Bike hit a wall in 4,5 and 6th
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2017, 10:46:52 AM »

Colorado Tom, TOTALLY disagree with you. Driven race cars & bikes. people using your approach have repeatable et's But are slow. Real
racers leave line at redline & shift just at peak.
110's are still pulling at 5500, bike is still accelerating & unless u have changed redline u have to shift then due to factory redline & corresponding shutdown. People who shift at 4200 or some other arbitrary number for torque peak, are just slow.

If you shift at redline, say thats 6k and power peaks at 4k, all you are accomplishing is wasting time running at non-peak power. And obviousy they will accelerate, just not at max acceleration since you're leaving HP behind. I'll run it the right way, you run yours, and enjoy the view of my taillight.
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Re: Bike hit a wall in 4,5 and 6th
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2017, 10:48:53 AM »

Well I find that very condescending. I wanted to see what my bike could do after giving it a break in and you tell me I should not redline it. I will have to go back and ask the dealer where my dyno  chart is so I can properly use half the rpm scale. I wasn't trying to do a land speed run. I am however disappointed in the stock engines performance.

Didn't mean to offend. You're obviously trying to get the most out of the motor. The way you were going about it would not accomplish your goals.
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Re: Bike hit a wall in 4,5 and 6th
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2017, 08:05:39 AM »

On the 2017 bikes the speed limiter is 107 MPH.  It will limit it in any gear it is capable of reaching 107.  There is also an RPM limiter.

The TTS tuner has the ability to remove both.
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Re: Bike hit a wall in 4,5 and 6th
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2017, 09:04:46 PM »

The stock 110 engine is set up for low to midrange torque, and due to the cams more than anything else the torque and power fall off rapidly over 4000 rpm.  Compared to the engines that preceded the 110, like the CVO103, the 110 is much better suited to hauling around a heavy touring bike loaded with people and gear.  Many of us with the 103's complained of the opposite problem, lack of bottom end torque.  Better cam choices from the aftermarket these days can help you keep the low end of the stock 110 and also extend the useful rpm range for better top end power.  Stock is a compromise at best, one that attempts to make the ever heavier bikes pull better on the low end as well as meet emissions regulations.  If stock doesn't suit you, find a good engine builder/tuner and have yours modified to fit your riding style. 

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As usual, Jerry's got it right :2vrolijk_21:

My Bone Stock (mufflers too :huepfenlol2:) '05 SEEG CVO 103 will smoke a stock 110, especially on top end where the little 103 just keeps on revving to put the Bike way past the Pin :coolblue:

My '09 SERG 110 (Pipe/Muffs/Tuner) was quickest when shifted around 4200 as the Torque Curve fell off of a ledge around 4k... 'Trying every trick in the book, the 110 was out of breath at 110mph (indicated) and all in around 112 or so...

Major Tom's '15 CVORGU 110 seemed to have more power a little higher up (than the pre-Rushmores), but I didn't have the opportunity to Run the Ton when I was puttin' the spurs to her ;D

It's the 255 "school bus" emissions cams... more "flexibility" with aftermarket...




 
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Re: Bike hit a wall in 4,5 and 6th
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2017, 11:44:05 AM »

After dyno, the bike is running 97/113 with Woods 777 cams and Fullsac DX pipe with 2" inserts. Top speed was 133mph. Not sure if that was in 5 or 6th gear.
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