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I bought the HD LED Tourpak light kit for my removable tourpak on my 2011 SESG.
The LED kit kit includes the HD run/turn/brake module wired into the harness that comes with the kit.
I also purchased the HD wire harness for 2011 CVO Ultra tourpak, because it combines wiring for the Tourpak LED tailights and LED sidemarker lights, but none of the connectors match from the kit or what exists on my SESG..
The problem I am finding is that the 2011 SESG rear wiring connectors that comes off the main harness to the existing SESG tail lamps are 8 pin Molex variety and have six wires from the main harness going into what I call the male 8 pin molex and out from the female 8 pin molex where there is a three way split with 4 wires going to each LED run/turn/brake lamp and then two wires going to the license plate light.
I even saw the numbering system of 1 thru 4 and 5 thru 8 on the back of each side of the molex plugs.
What I need is a Y molex adapter that has the same configuration at the base and left arm of the Y to connect to the brake lights and license plate light.
What I don't know is how the right arm of the Y should be configured to power the TP LED tail light kit and running lamps on the sides of the TP. The harness that came with the LED tail light kit came with the run/turn/brake module wired into that harness, and it has a different number of wires running from its' female molex connector into the harness inside the tour pak.
Hopefully someoneone else reading this post may be able to assist, especially with pictures.
Or, am I better off contacting Ride Time and asking them to provide their solution?
This is sort of frustrating.
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Call RideTime and have Keith make you a T or Y harness.
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Thanks ThunderBueller, that sounds like what I am going to need to do.
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That's probably the easiest thing to do. Wiring harnesses on the SESGs always seem to be a B****. If you can have someone else make up a harness for you, you're probably better off.

On my '12 SESG, I ended up making my own custom 5-wire harness by tapping into the little 3-wire run/brake/ground connector under the left side cover, and also tapping into the big harness on the rear fender to pick up the turn signal connections. I put a 6-pin Deutsch connector on this harness, just behind the rear of the seat, to make it quick disconnect. Within the TP, I terminated the connections to match the ones from the side lights, and soldered the tiny little wires from the Ride Time Technology light bar I have into the wires in my custom harness, then wrapped everything up tight in plastic tubing and electrical tape. It was a real hassle, and under the TP liner it's a real rats' nest... but it works!.

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This is pretty easy ... just follow the instructions as not all positions are used from the Y-Harness to the run that goes to the TP.
I don't remember having a problem when I did mine (been a while) - seems as if it was straight-forward for wiring.

Just fyi ... the Y-Harness are not Molex connectors - they are Amp Multilock.
I'll try and dig out my instructions to refresh my memory and post up what I find.

It was all a plug-n-play install - I didn't need to tap, cut, or splice any wire to install.
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TIF2, thanks for the information. Did you have to change AMP Multilock connectors to molex type for your FLHXSE2?
Did that give you the run/turn/brake functions for the outer LED modules and run/brake for the center module?
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Nope ... all I remember doing is following the install instructions.

The connector on the "light side" of the LED R/T/B module is a Molex MX150.
The connector for the "Y-Harness" under the seat is an Amp Multilock.

Did you get the install instructions with your Light Bar kit?
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Nope ... all I remember doing is following the install instructions.

The connector on the "light side" of the LED R/T/B module is a Molex MX150.
The connector for the "Y-Harness" under the seat is an Amp Multilock.

Did you get the install instructions with your Light Bar kit?

Something's not right here. FLHXSE's use Molex connectors for the taillight wiring connections. There is no way an AMP Multilock is anywhere on an unmodified from the factory bike. The taillight kit the OP is attempting to use is not originally intended for these bikes.

OP, take a pic of what you are hooking up and post it here. I added this stuff to my FLTRX with CVO rear fender and fascia with zero problems with a Ride Time Y-harness with Molex connectors.

I just looked at the instructions for the kit I presume you're installing and all you need to change is part 13, the Y-harness. Or just find someone who can change the connections to Molex. If you don't have the instructions do a google search with the part number and pdf and it should be your first search result.
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Something's not right here. FLHXSE's use Molex connectors for the taillight wiring connections. There is no way an AMP Multilock is anywhere on an unmodified from the factory bike. The taillight kit the OP is attempting to use is not originally intended for these bikes.

It's an AMP Multilock.
Look at instruction sheet J05090 (Rev 2010-03-29), page 2, Figure 2 and it states:
Figure 2. AMP Six-way Pin Housing 73106-96BK.

Or

Look at step 4 on page 2:
"Get the six-way AMP housing ....."

I'll pull my seat and take a picture of it installed. It plugs right in on the FLHXSE2.
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It's an AMP Multilock.
Look at instruction sheet J05090 (Rev 2010-03-29), page 2, Figure 2 and it states:
Figure 2. AMP Six-way Pin Housing 73106-96BK.

Or

Look at step 4 on page 2:
"Get the six-way AMP housing ....."

I'll pull my seat and take a picture of it installed. It plugs right in on the FLHXSE2.

Ok, but what did you use for a Y-Harness? That's the part that needs Molex connectors on two legs and the AMP to go to the Tour Pak harness.
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The Y-Harness is included in the LED lightbar kit. The Y-Harness included with that kiy contains 2 legs with Amp Multilock connectors.
It attaches to the rear tailight harness and carries one side to the rear lights and the other side to the Tourpak.

Here is a pic ... you can see the harness and the one leg going to the Tourpak.
This is the same Y-harness that you mention as Number 13 in the install indtructions.
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The Y-Harness is included in the LED lightbar kit. The Y-Harness included with that kiy contains 2 legs with Amp Multilock connectors.
It attaches to the rear tailight harness and carries one side to the rear lights and the other side to the Tourpak.

Here is a pic ... you can see the harness and the one leg going to the Tourpak.
This is the same Y-harness that you mention as Number 13 in the install indtructions.

Did you install the Y? Or a shop?
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You know?
That's a really good point. The dealer did my TP setup prior to delivery, and I did a R/T/B conversion on my brother's bike.

But ...

My brother's bike was a 2012 Ultra.
So what you're saying is the dealer cut the molex connectors off and reterminated them with miltilocks?
"cause I sure as heck have multilocks on that harness now.

Hmmmm ... well if that's the case at least they didn't charge me for the work  :)
Nor did they mention that they did the work.
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I thought I had learned to never, EVER "assume" when it comes to H-D.

:)

Gotta go with the fact that the under seat connection is indeed a molex.
However, if you have the means available, I would do the install the same way - reterminate with multilocks and use the supplied Y-harness.

Greg (OP) - if you want to send me your Y-harness that was included in the kit I can reterminate that harness with molex MX150 connectors on the 2 legs that have multilocks.

Let me know
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Hi TIF2 and Thunderbueller, as you can imagine, I have been watching this converstaion very closely. TIF2, thanks for the picture. I am going to get my bike out in the sun and take a pic of the connection from the main harness to the tail light wiring harness. I can say without question, that mine is a pair of molex connectors without a doubt. The weird thing about the Y connector is that it is definitely AMP multilock on all three ends, which renders it worthles in connecting to the LED Tail light kit which does definitely have a molex connector. Obviously HD can't seem to figure out what they want to do. Talk about a cluster.  I am going to recheck the wire colors and positions of my molex connections and then compare to those on the Amp multilock Y and see if they will match up if the Amp multilock ends are changed to multilock. I gues HD wanted to make it difficult to add lights to a tourpak on CVO Street Glide, so they could sell more CVO Ultra Classics.
TIF2, thank you for your generous offer. The Y connector has to be all Molex since the LED Kit harness has Molex at the end that would go from the top of the right hand arm of the Y. Hopefully I'll have a better sense of what needs to be done by the end of today and we can talk more.
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