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Brake light not bright enough?
« on: June 11, 2013, 06:54:50 PM »

When ridding with my ridding buddies they always complain about my brake lights being hard to see.  They say their not bright enough. Anyone else have the same problem? I just ordered Custom Dynamics Magic Brake Light Flasher. Anyone using this product? Also want to add color matched wings with brake lights in them.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2013, 06:58:50 PM »

When ridding with my ridding buddies they always complain about my brake lights being hard to see.  They say their not bright enough. Anyone else have the same problem? I just ordered Custom Dynamics Magic Brake Light Flasher. Anyone using this product? Also want to add color matched wings with brake lights in them.

I get no complaints... they all love the lights and say they are bright!

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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2013, 07:04:21 PM »

I never hear a peep from anyone  :nixweiss:
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2013, 07:06:14 PM »

I get no complaints... they all love the lights and say they are bright!


Same here.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2013, 07:31:29 PM »

I will have the wife put on my brakes while i look at them.... Maybe something is wrong with mine....
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2013, 07:54:50 PM »

I was told last year on the Americas 911 Ride by some buddies behind me that if the sun was low in the sky & hitting the back of the bike just right that it is kind of difficult to see. I don't know, that was the only time anyone ever said anything like that so I've never persued it any further. Good luck coming up with something if you think there's a issue.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2013, 08:00:38 PM »

I was told last year on the Americas 911 Ride by some buddies behind me that if the sun was low in the sky & hitting the back of the bike just right that it is kind of difficult to see. I don't know, that was the only time anyone ever said anything like that so I've never persued it any further. Good luck coming up with something if you think there's a issue.
Thats about the same issue my friends have with my lights. In the garage they look fine. I like the strobe effect the magic strobe module has so i think it should help.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 08:04:23 PM »


I've driven or ridden behind quite a few Harley's since 2009 with these rear lights, and at least in daylight I definitely see a difference compared to the "old fashioned" solid red lens incandescent bulb tail/brake lights.  I also have noticed the same thing with many cars btw.  Somehow the manufacturer's have been able to meet the minimum DOT requirements with the cutesy new tail/stop lamps, but at least to my eyes they are NOT as obvious.  The smoked or clear lens units seem to be the worst.

Even if yours are working normally, I'd still recommend adding more lights.  Unless you always run a Tour Pak, which is the ideal location for additional lighting, you could at least add the lights that are available to your bags.  IMHO you can never have too much lighting on the rear of the bike.  Maybe that's because I've had the severe displeasure of being run over from behind in the past.

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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2013, 05:54:04 AM »

No Problems with seeing the tail lights but my friends say the saddle bag and tour pack ( when I have it on ) lights are brighter than the tail lights.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2013, 11:26:59 AM »

I get no complaints.  I am 100% LED Trucklite Phase 7s and LED front truns
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2013, 03:58:30 PM »

no complaints since adding the custom dynamics module :)   Put it on both the 2011 SESG and the 2013 SERGC.    excellent additions to the bike for 49.00.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2013, 04:38:13 PM »

no complaints since adding the custom dynamics module :)   Put it on both the 2011 SESG and the 2013 SERGC.    excellent additions to the bike for 49.00.

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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2013, 05:06:12 PM »


Perhaps I'm missing something, but do any of you really want to assume that just because no one has walked up and told you your tail lights and stop lights suck that everything is therefore rosy?  I'm a firm believer in checking it myself, not waiting for someone to think to tell me my lights suck or don't work at all.

Here's a simple test.  Next time you're in a parking lot with a bunch of bikes, have some of the guys with regular lights line their bikes up next to yours and everyone fire them up and let them sit idling.  Now walk about 50 to 100 feet back, turn around and look at all the tail lights.  Try also walking to either side to check the off-angle visibility.  If you do this in daylight, I'm going to guess that at least some of you will notice the same thing I have about those lights.  Or maybe not and I'm just a little more screwed up than usual lately. :nixweiss:

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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2013, 06:07:48 PM »

I have heard this many times from people following me on my bike.  I even added the saddle bag lights.  At night it's not an issue, but during the day my bike stands out better in the sun than the brake lights do.  When leading a group, or if I have a car close on my arse, I use the good ole hand signals to make an additional point of what I am doing.

Here is a video from this weekend my friend shot following me up and down Mt. Nebo in Arkansas.  This was a casual pace with both of my friends never going up the switchbacks.  Look at the down part, I am on the brakes quite a bit, and the sun washes out the lights.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2013, 10:47:16 PM »

   Must be my computer, the video seems so blurry that  I can hardly make out you and the bike much less the brake lites.  I have looked at my brake and tail lites lined up with other bikes and they seem fine and more than bright enough.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2013, 08:33:11 AM »

Last year I was following a friend on his FLTRXSE and it seemed to me that his lights were a bit hard to see because the angle of the lenses and glare of the sun. Could just be me but anyway, I put on the Custom Dynamics SS-8 and like the effect. My friend saw it and put it on his too.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2013, 06:19:02 AM »

installed the magic strobe today and its going to grab the attention of anyone behind you! Might be the best safety mod for $50 anyone can do and it takes all of 5 minutes to install.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2013, 07:03:25 AM »

installed the magic strobe today and its going to grab the attention of anyone behind you! Might be the best safety mod for $50 anyone can do and it takes all of 5 minutes to install.

Is it a plug and play or do you have to splice any wires?
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2013, 09:15:57 AM »

Plug and play if you order the one for our CVO bikes. Mine comes in Monday. Had to try it after reading these posts. This site keeps costing me money.  ;D
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2013, 12:13:36 PM »

Perhaps I'm missing something, but do any of you really want to assume that just because no one has walked up and told you your tail lights and stop lights suck that everything is therefore rosy?  I'm a firm believer in checking it myself, not waiting for someone to think to tell me my lights suck or don't work at all.

Here's a simple test.  Next time you're in a parking lot with a bunch of bikes, have some of the guys with regular lights line their bikes up next to yours and everyone fire them up and let them sit idling.  Now walk about 50 to 100 feet back, turn around and look at all the tail lights.  Try also walking to either side to check the off-angle visibility.  If you do this in daylight, I'm going to guess that at least some of you will notice the same thing I have about those lights.  Or maybe not and I'm just a little more screwed up than usual lately. :nixweiss:

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However.. I followed a red hot sunglow (i think) FLHX and this thing was so bright in the sun I couldnt even see the taillights against the bright red metallic paint.

Fortunately I run a TP w/spoiler or backrest with the airwing for daily commute.

Weekend solo cruising it all comes off.

I check each day before I leave the house to assure I have all lighting functional.

Too many idiots here that cant see you when your lights do work.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2013, 03:26:00 PM »

I added the custom dynamics led brake light, front & rear turn signals, with the rear both red for stop and flashing yellow for turns and a license plate frame with the led turn signals and center brake light along with the magic strobe. What a difference. I have had many guys following me comment on how much they like my lights and how bright they are. I can tell you when a cager is too close and I just flash the lights they seem to back off. Custom dynamics were great to work with and very helpful. All this was plug and play on my 2008 FLHRSE. I forgot to mention I had to install the load module to get the flashers to work properly.

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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2013, 01:55:35 AM »

Is it a plug and play or do you have to splice any wires?
I got the unit for the CVO and it is plug and play! Was very simple to install. Just walked in the door 18 hrs and 680 miles today. Friends said the strobe of the lights help to see when i hit the brakes a ton... I was about a mile ahead of them at one point and was getting off the highway and they said they could see the light.
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2013, 05:33:45 AM »

I got the unit for the CVO and it is plug and play! Was very simple to install. Just walked in the door 18 hrs and 680 miles today. Friends said the strobe of the lights help to see when i hit the brakes a ton... I was about a mile ahead of them at one point and was getting off the highway and they said they could see the light.

Thanks, I'll order one up :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2013, 06:40:53 AM »

I ordered one on on Sunday SS8 I like the demo on the web site.
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2013, 11:25:59 PM »

Put it on today. less that 30 seconds to install.....30 minutes to decide what mode to use.  ::)
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2013, 10:49:19 AM »

Where does this hook up under the seat or the side panel ????
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2013, 11:32:14 AM »

I already have their signal light balancer (for the LED vs. Bulb front turn signals) in use.  Can this be used in series or should it also take care of the load balancing too?
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2013, 01:57:32 PM »

Hey guys I just purchased a brake light flasher module on E-Bay. It is a custom dynamics SS8 module that works with our newer 2010-2013 CVO bikes. It was from an E-Bay user called easternpc. Hehad it listed as buy it now for 49.95 or best offer. I offered him 40.00 and he accepted it. The module is 50.00 straight from custom dynamics. Just wanted to let ya'll know in case someone else wanted one at a discount. He re-listed another one the same way and the E-Bay item number is 400511560566.

When I looked at the instructions on the website it said it plugs in under the seat but could be mounted there or in a side panel. You still have to do the load balancer for LED's but the flasher unit plugs in between the balancer and the brake lights.
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« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2013, 03:34:20 PM »

Hey guys I just purchased a brake light flasher module on E-Bay. It is a custom dynamics SS8 module that works with our newer 2010-2013 CVO bikes. It was from an E-Bay user called easternpc. Hehad it listed as buy it now for 49.95 or best offer. I offered him 40.00 and he accepted it. The module is 50.00 straight from custom dynamics. Just wanted to let ya'll know in case someone else wanted one at a discount. He re-listed another one the same way and the E-Bay item number is 400511560566.

When I looked at the instructions on the website it said it plugs in under the seat but could be mounted there or in a side panel. You still have to do the load balancer for LED's but the flasher unit plugs in between the balancer and the brake lights.

Eastern Performance is a good sized operation, only part of which is the ebay store.  In my experience they offer good prices, including free shipping, and seem to have good customer service.

http://www.easternperformance.com/

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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2013, 03:46:38 PM »

No complaints. I have the LED brake light from Badlands.

This picture really does not show how bright it really is.
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« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2013, 10:15:45 PM »

Where does this hook up under the seat or the side panel ????
Just pull the seat off. There is a male/female plug attached to the rear fender. Just break it apart and plug the module in.
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« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2013, 06:16:13 AM »

Just pull the seat off. There is a male/female plug attached to the rear fender. Just break it apart and plug the module in.
 
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« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2013, 06:20:46 PM »

Done, a 30 seconds install 15 minutes deciding which pattern.
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« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2013, 06:47:31 PM »

Done, a 30 seconds install 15 minutes deciding which pattern.

Which one did you go with?
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2013, 06:41:26 AM »

I think it was # 3 / 7 Flashes then Solid then 7 Flashes then Solid little hard to tell what # you are on on the little box.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2013, 12:34:58 PM »

I think it was # 3 / 7 Flashes then Solid then 7 Flashes then Solid little hard to tell what # you are on on the little box.

Thats the setting i chose, does the job well  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2013, 09:36:28 PM »

I went with the strobe that changes, #9 I think. Might change to full strobe. You are correct that its hard to tell what number you are on.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2013, 08:27:07 PM »

I went with the strobe that changes, #9 I think. Might change to full strobe. You are correct that its hard to tell what number you are on.

Just got back in from a 9 day trip. Riders kept coming up and asking about the brake lights. They said that they were very visible and attention getting and wanted to know where I got them. Looks like it was money well spent!
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2013, 06:27:00 AM »

I'm not sure if I agree I was at bike week and I have the brake lights set up with 7 blinking and then solid and then 7 blinking and I had my turn signal on
and the guys behind me said they were not sure what I was doing, because I was hitting the brake at the same time my turn signal was on and both sides were blinking  :o I did not check it out yet to see whats up I may need to change the setting.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2013, 07:24:30 AM »

i'm using either mode 6 or mode 8, and it's pretty obvious when you have your turn signal on.  it flashes a little bit, then goes solid, but your signal still blinks.  it flashes enough at first to get the person's attention, then goes solid.

for the guys that have trouble figuring out which pattern you've selected, if you look really closely at the the switch, there is a little triangle molded into it.  the point of the triangle points to the number of the pattern.  i'm not gonna tell you to put your reading glasses on, but it helped me :D
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2013, 09:40:35 AM »

Watch out LED's are addictive...next thing you know you will have the engine lit up...*L
I chose #4 the first strobe effect.  I too get comments telling how well people see them.  I have also noticed that when I use my brake folks seems to back off and stay back more than before the LED flashing system.  Maybe because its soo bright?
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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2013, 02:43:50 PM »

Watch out LED's are addictive...next thing you know you will have the engine lit up...*L
I chose #4 the first strobe effect.  I too get comments telling how well people see them.  I have also noticed that when I use my brake folks seems to back off and stay back more than before the LED flashing system.  Maybe because its soo bright?
No, you probably just interrupted their phone call and they became more aware of you.    :nervous:   spyder
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2013, 05:07:35 PM »

I had same concerns, LED's didn't seem very bright.  I was accustomed to applying the front brake and looking over my shoulder to check brake light at night.  With LED's i saw nothing.  I got concerned, so, one night i had my daughter apply front brake while parked in garage and i walked back about 30-35 ft.  They were actually noticeably brighter than the (3) lights on my Dyna that lit up when I applied the brakes. But..... when i walked to either side a about 5-10 degrees off center the light factor was reduced.  I did add the Custom Dynamics Magic Strobe SS8.  Like someone else mentioned, 30 seconds to install, 30 minutes to figure out which pattern i wanted. Settled on 4 flashes, 1 second solid, 3 flashes, 3 second solid, repeat.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2013, 08:32:20 PM »

I was recently rear ended at 50 mph while stopped on a highway (thankfully while driving a Crown Vic) so I'll admit I'm a bit paranoid about distracted cagers behind me.

I installed the Magic Strobes and LOVE them. I also ordered the Kuryakyn Tri LED license frame to further increase the show form the rear. I just have to work out the install.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2013, 10:52:25 PM »

I was recently rear ended at 50 mph while stopped on a highway (thankfully while driving a Crown Vic) so I'll admit I'm a bit paranoid about distracted cagers behind me.

I installed the Magic Strobes and LOVE them. I also ordered the Kuryakyn Tri LED license frame to further increase the show form the rear. I just have to work out the install.

Yep! That's what got me interested in this thread. I got hit in the rear by a semi while in my F-150. Luckily at low speed but 80,000 pounds packs a wallop! 
I agree that the vis from the side sucks but we can't change that much. I thought the blinks were confusing with the signals also. That's why I went with the strobe effect. When the TP is on, the rack light strobes at about eye level too.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2013, 11:27:18 PM »

I bought a license plate frame from custom dynamics that has turn signal lights and a upper brake light all LEDS that really brightens up the rear. Might want to take a look.
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2013, 12:26:03 AM »

Done, a 30 seconds install 15 minutes deciding which pattern.



same here
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Re: Brake light not bright enough?
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2013, 09:18:25 PM »

When ridding with my ridding buddies they always complain about my brake lights being hard to see.  They say their not bright enough. Anyone else have the same problem? I just ordered Custom Dynamics Magic Brake Light Flasher. Anyone using this product? Also want to add color matched wings with brake lights in them.
  I have a 2005 SEEG Banana and wifey says the same thing, so I have ordered the dual color plasma rods, and the integrated tail light.  Kinda got carried away and ordered the Phase 7 headlight and the Phase 7 passing lights as well.  Should be seen coming and going


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