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[FNGw/08SERK]

Thought a bump should be in order just in case there are those looking to help!

[Twolanerider]

Thought a bump should be in order just in case there are those looking to help!

Thanks again.  Couple of contributions arrived in snail mail today also. 

As an aside; setting up a new Paypal account and then immediately having it get activity apparently puts their panties in a bunch.  You'd not believe the hoops they've had to jump through getting the account both active and approved in the last few days.

It's good that they're making things as secure and protected as they can.  At some point, however, you've answered everything they've asked and enough has to be enough.  Companies that make themselves difficult to do business with are ones that don't get business done with them.  Hopefully the bees will be out of their bonnet soon.

Thanks again to everyone that has helped out here.  I clued them in this morning with a general idea of what to expect.  Very happy campers.  It was nice.

[Twolanerider]

When starting this I thought using Paypal would be easiest for me and everyone else.  Was willing to let Paypal take their cut rather than deal with postal mail.  That assumption of ease of use was mistaken.

Apparently the creation of a new account immediately followed by payments that don't have product purchases tied to them raises red flags at Paypal.  I've so far provided them with credit card support, drivers license, passport, bank statements and probably other things not currently remembered.  Next I'm sure will a lock of hair and a DNA sample.

They've got the newly created account on hold while they verify that I'm not stealing from all of you without your knowledge.  If they keep this up too much longer I'll not be able to get it to Rob before they leave next time.  It's not that a week is that big a deal one way or the other, but it needs to get taken care of.

So....  I need a hand.  Not sure how much good it will do.  But it's the only thing I can do to further the process right now.

To those of you that have contributed via Paypal:

Would you please send an email to appeal@paypal.com . 

Make the subject line: Case Number: PP-360-050-255.

In the body of the email please tell them your paypal account, that you know your payment to paypal@theamericanroad.us was a contribution, that you knew this before the fact and that you're confident I'm not stealing from everyone.


Hopefully this will speed along a process that I'm now told could otherwise take another week to ten days.  Oy vey.....


Guys, I'm really sorry for all the hassle here.  Didn't intend this to be difficult.  If they drag it out too long I may just tell them to stuff it and issue refunds to everyone.  Will then bug you all to extend your generosity again but use snail mail.  The real benefit there would be Paypal would get screwed out of their percentage.

[sadunbar]

Don,

  I sent a note to the email address you provided.  Hopefully this will help expedite the process...

later...Scott

[Twolanerider]

Don,

  I sent a note to the email address you provided.  Hopefully this will help expedite the process...

later...Scott

Thanks Scott.  Appreciate it.  They can't be damned for trying to protect the users and being secure.  But enough is just enough sometimes.  I'd really not be surprised if they ask me to pee in a cup next.

[Chief]

Me too. Hope it helps.

[MJZ]

Just sent the note to Paypal, hope it moves them.
I looked at my paypal transaction list and they have the donation marked as completed. So I assume all is straightened out?

[SCRM-R]

I also sent an email to PayPal.  Hope it helps.  Good luck...

[FNGw/08SERK]

I know snail mail is a pita but seems like it may be the way to go. Did you you get Raquel and my via snail mail?

Howie

[hdbrad03]

Email sent to PayPal.

Brad

[Bojiboy]

Message sent as well.....

[Twolanerider]

Just sent the note to Paypal, hope it moves them.
I looked at my paypal transaction list and they have the donation marked as completed. So I assume all is straightened out?

Apparently "completed" only means completed as in they're holding and making interest on the payment before it's released for use in the other account.  Still on hold from my end.

If they don't have it taken care of by end of business tomorrow I'm going to tell them to return all the payments to everyone who sent them.  We'll do it by snail mail and they can lose their percantage on all the transactions.

[Twolanerider]

I know snail mail is a pita but seems like it may be the way to go. Did you you get Raquel and my via snail mail?

Howie

Yes, I believe so. There have been four contributions arrive in the mail.  Admittedly I've not kept a list of who or how much as this was never about who or how much.  Didn't want anyone thinking they ought to do more or different than anyone else.

[sadunbar]

Apparently "completed" only means completed as in they're holding and making interest on the payment before it's released for use in the other account.  Still on hold from my end.

If they don't have it taken care of by end of business tomorrow I'm going to tell them to return all the payments to everyone who sent them.  We'll do it by snail mail and they can lose their percantage on all the transactions.

Don,

Did you get this squared away with paypal?

Scott

[Twolanerider]

Don,

Did you get this squared away with paypal?

Scott

Scott, your info request here was accompanied by a couple of PMs and an email all in just the last 24 hours asking how this was going.  People have been concerned over whether their efforts were making it where they were intended.

After looking at the last email from Paypal, and just how annoying and obtuse it was, I for the life of me could not figure out why I should continue screwing with them.  Doing so does not guarantee immediate results.  Doing so would also only be effort that would eventually allow them to secure their percentage in transaction fees.  Those are fees they patently have not earned.  What I'd thought would be the simplest way to do this surely has not been.  My bad.

So, rather than giving Paypal the satisfaction of continuing to dance to their tune and paying them for the privilege I just got through refunding everything there.  Hopefully all of you will see the refund notices very promptly.  They get no fees on a refunded transaction.  At this point there is some small satisfaction in knowing they won't get paid.

A few had used snail mail to begin with.  To those that had contributed using Paypal; upon seeing your refunds please do the same.  Address is still in the first post of the thread.  For convenience here it is again:

Don Carey
2829 N. Chandler
Joplin, MO  64801

Thanks everyone very much for your patience here.  I never anticipated this becoming weird or a hassle.  My heartfelt apologies to all of you for putting up with the problems and still being concerned enough to check in on it.

While here I'll make one more pitch too.  The reasons why are in the first post of this thread.  These are two really good people who need a hand right now.  I personally pitched in about 3k to cover one month of bare minimum expenses for them.  The contributions so far from here and a couple of other sources have come close to matching that. 

If someone is seeing this thread for the first time your consideration is appreciated.  Again, not asking anyone to give until it hurts.  Not even until it stings.  If you can share the cost of a night's restaurant bill or movie tickets that's great.  A few doing that really adds up.  And it will all be strongly and beautifully appreciated by a special little girl and her dad.

Thanks again,
Don