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2019 Indians Are On Their Website
« on: August 30, 2018, 07:47:40 AM »

https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/thunder-stroke-111/

I'm a Die Hard Harley Rider but I can still appreciate the "Other" American Made Bike....   My Father-in-law has a  '17 Roadmaster...   It's a nice bike...   For an old man!   :) :)   He does get a lot of attention with it.

From their site:
"The Thunder Stroke® 111 is a soul-stirring V-Twin that delivers smooth, impressive power in every gear. And for 2019, these models boast new features that take performance, customization and comfort to the next level – making it easier than ever to match your bike to your riding style. New ride-enhancing technology like selectable Ride Modes and Rear Cylinder Deactivation let you ride your way, with more comfort. Plus, new gloss black finishes on Dark Horse® models and an improved audio system on Roadmaster® make your ride look and sound better. "

"NEW FEATURES
Introducing 3 Ride Modes on all Thunder Stroke® 111 models. Select between Tour, Standard or Sport mode on the fly.

Introducing Rear Cylinder Deactivation on all Thunder Stroke® 111 models. The rear cylinder will automatically deactivate when the bike is at a standstill for more comfort in slow-moving traffic. When throttle is applied, the rear cylinder will instantly reactivate for a seamless transition to full power.

Roadmaster® gets additional upgrades. The premium audio system now features 2-way speakers for enhanced clarity. Also, a dynamic equalizer automatically adjusts for speed so you get crystal clear audio at all times. The lowers were also redesigned to provide significantly more airflow to the rider.

All Dark Horse® models get even darker, with blacked-out exhaust and contrasting gloss black finishes"
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Re: 2019 Indians Are On Their Website
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2018, 10:07:38 AM »

I received the notice email yesterday.  Looks like they will be expounding on the '19 Roadmaster Chieftain on September 5th. 

Interesting how they released info on the Scout line first, yesterday the big twins and next Wednesday more details on the Roadmaster Chieftain.  I'm wondering if they will release the "special edition" models/colors the week after...

Their sound system was very, very good stock.  I'm looking forward to hearing the difference with these better speakers... ;D
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2018, 02:19:54 PM »

Interesting, they have "driving modes". Is this something new for 2019? Perhaps they'll drag HD kick and screaming into the modern age.

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2018, 03:39:09 PM »

The driving modes are new for ‘19.  Only impacts the engine, not suspension.  Was hoping either IM or HD would have an electronic adjustable suspension this year.  The IM Chieftain is being redesigned.  Here’s a spy pic of what’s being circulated on line.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2018, 03:41:35 PM »

Interesting, they have "driving modes". Is this something new for 2019? Perhaps they'll drag HD kick and screaming into the modern age.

DH

and indian is introducing their version of eitms for 2019, something hd has had since 2007
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2018, 04:10:12 PM »

They no doubt have committees dedicated to deciding what is best to copy from each other.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2018, 05:35:07 PM »

They no doubt have committees dedicated to deciding what is best to copy from each other.

Which is good for both companies...HD reworked their Infotainment system for '19 because the IM system was better.  Without IM,  there'd be no one pushing the MoCo to make improvements.
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Re: 2019 Indians Are On Their Website
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2018, 07:14:04 AM »

   The IM Chieftain is being redesigned.  Here’s a spy pic of what’s being circulated on line.

Whoa!   I am diggin' the looks of those saddlebags and front fender.   
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2018, 07:31:10 AM »

Which is good for both companies...HD reworked their Infotainment system for '19 because the IM system was better.  Without IM,  there'd be no one pushing the MoCo to make improvements.

Trick is to copy it better with improvements.  Copying is done in a lot of industries.  Early adapters/innovators vs late adapters/followers.  Costs associated with each strategy drive sales & profits.  Winners are not always the innovators, sometimes the copy works as well or better & the cost is less.  Think Sony Betamax (innovator) vs VHS (copy).  The latter prevailed, by a lot.  Ford vs Chevy is a longer term version - both innovate - both copy.
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Re: 2019 Indians Are On Their Website
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2018, 09:15:21 AM »

Here’s a spy pic of what’s being circulated on line.

If truly a spy pic, not only redesigned saddlebags, look at the front faring.  There is a vent there now....imitation is the purest form of flattery?

Whoa!   I am diggin' the looks of those saddlebags and front fender.   

I'm hoping Polaris wasn't cleaning out all the used Victory saddlebags 'cause these new ones sure resemble those...not saying bad, just looks like Victory old stock...

Looking forward to seeing and hearing them in person in a few days.
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2018, 09:18:22 PM »

More IM pics
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2018, 09:21:32 PM »

More IM pics

Now they are making them look like the Victory bikes. Bad move.
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2018, 09:46:55 PM »

There’s a more black & less chrome theme going on with the 19s


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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2018, 12:37:57 AM »

cant help it, still don't thrill me
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2018, 07:16:33 AM »

Victory lives - as an Indian.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2018, 02:37:25 PM »

Now they are making them look like the Victory bikes. Bad move.

Come on Simon.  Let's not be a hater... :cherry:  ;D

Meanwhile on the Victory message board, the standard comment is "Looks very Harleyish to me, especially the fairing and bags."   :)
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2018, 03:50:38 PM »

Come on Simon.  Let's not be a hater... :cherry:  ;D

Meanwhile on the Victory message board, the standard comment is "Looks very Harleyish to me, especially the fairing and bags."   :)

Well sure, Victory copied from Harley. Let's face it, there's a reason Victory died and Bombardier decided to move forward with Indian. I don't mind new looks. And I don't care for the Indian art deco fender but they can't just rehash Victory designs and call them Indian. No hate. I hope they succeed. Harley needs competition.

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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2018, 03:57:22 PM »

Well sure, Victory copied from Harley. Let's face it, there's a reason Victory died and Bombardier decided to move forward with Indian. I don't mind new looks. And I don't care for the Indian art deco fender but they can't just rehash Victory designs and call them Indian. No hate. I hope they succeed. Harley needs competition.

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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2018, 04:01:57 PM »

From what I'm seeing and hearing, Indian is doing real well. Sales have really increased this year. Some dealers are getting full msrp for their bikes and running low on inventory.

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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2018, 04:25:37 PM »

Bombardier?

My bad, Polaris. For some reason I thought they were related companies. Guess not, cause they are suing each other.  :D :D :D
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2018, 10:08:48 AM »

Chieftan Video   
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2018, 10:27:14 AM »

I like it.  Wasn't too sure on the rear bags in the spy photos but they fit the overall changes.  I'm glad they went all LED and put the chief on the bobbed fender from the factory.

Not sure how the front vent flows with the storage bin still up top and that huge radio...wonder where the wind comes out?

The 116 upgrade still is on hold I'm'a'guessin since it's not listed anywhere....dang it.

I like the red on the limited and the new graphics.

Wonder what the Roadmaster elite color will be and if there will be another Jack Daniels model for 2019?
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2018, 01:33:30 PM »



The 116 upgrade still is on hold I'm'a'guessin since it's not listed anywhere....dang it.



This picture was in the photo gallery for the Chieftain Limited.
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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2018, 02:34:03 PM »

This picture was in the photo gallery for the Chieftain Limited.

I did see that, Ghost, which began my search of the parts and accessories portion of the site.  Nothing listed except for stage two (pipes, AC and cams).  Even building one, the stage two is the only option... :nixweiss:

K'ville Indian has a '18 Chieftain Dark Horse built with the 116 from earlier in the year when they first came out.  They are on stop sell from corporate until the bugs are worked out?
They did let you test ride it at a point but not sure they are now.
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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2018, 04:20:51 PM »

I did see that, Ghost, which began my search of the parts and accessories portion of the site.  Nothing listed except for stage two (pipes, AC and cams).  Even building one, the stage two is the only option... :nixweiss:

K'ville Indian has a '18 Chieftain Dark Horse built with the 116 from earlier in the year when they first came out.  They are on stop sell from corporate until the bugs are worked out?
They did let you test ride it at a point but not sure they are now.

Wait!  They are going to work the bugs out BEFORE they sell to the market?  That doesn't sound right.  I thought the market was the beta test group.  #harleyproductdevelopment
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2018, 07:48:19 AM »

The fairing restyle is a little too industrial for me. But the big issue for me is the heat from the rear cylinder when riding, unbearable during my 2 weeks with one from Eaglerider. Not just at a stop but when riding, so the rear cylinder cutoff at a stop won't help much IMO.
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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2018, 09:06:30 AM »

I did see that, Ghost, which began my search of the parts and accessories portion of the site.  Nothing listed except for stage two (pipes, AC and cams).  Even building one, the stage two is the only option... :nixweiss:

K'ville Indian has a '18 Chieftain Dark Horse built with the 116 from earlier in the year when they first came out.  They are on stop sell from corporate until the bugs are worked out?
They did let you test ride it at a point but not sure they are now.
rode the 116 at panama city rally.the 116 version was still on hold then. (may-5-18) then the hold was said to be til aug. the demo indian put on had two 116 ci. one on an elite the other on a road master. they had plenty of power on the low end. was definitely more powerful than my 110 c.i. i rode both and was impressed.
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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2018, 09:56:57 PM »

Wait!  They are going to work the bugs out BEFORE they sell to the market?  That doesn't sound right.  I thought the market was the beta test group.  #harleyproductdevelopment

I went by an Indian dealership the other day and asked about the 116 kit being on hold. I was told that they were beefing up the rods in the kit and would be back on the market when testing was complete.
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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2018, 10:50:52 PM »

when I tested the Indian a few months ago it had the 116 in it and torque was good but still hit a wall around 4K. Even the torque though was not as strong as my 117 with stage 3 though it didn't sump when I tested it..
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« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2018, 06:06:32 PM »

I am gonna be in the market for a new bike in about a year and a half. Would like a new CVO but if the dumping issues are still prevalent gonna have to look hard at Indian. I built one online loaded to the gills with removable tour pack and all the chrome available and a stage 2 kit. Only because the 116 is on hold. Price came to around 39000. CVO road glide is 42000 without removable tour pack. Never really looked at Indian that much before but all of these dumping reports are forcing me to. We will see if Indian solves the 116 issues or Harley solves the dumping first. Let the competition begin.
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