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Heated gear
« on: February 07, 2016, 01:15:22 PM »

I just rode 90 minutes at 60 to 70 mph an my 2014 CVO Limited. Wearing Gerbings  jacket liner and gloves. I had to get a jump start 3hrs later. The volt meter never was below 14 volts. Original battery. Any ideas?
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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 01:21:50 PM »

With the recent posts regarding battery's I would suggest getting a load test done on your battery to start. Might be w/the extra draw of the heated gear the charging system can't maintain, keep the battery charged. :nixweiss:

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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 01:43:51 PM »

With the recent posts regarding battery's I would suggest getting a load test done on your battery to start. Might be w/the extra draw of the heated gear the charging system can't maintain, keep the battery charged. :nixweiss:

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Can't know yet where the deficiency might be.  Even before yanking the battery would be worth checking that all the cable ends are tight.

Strictly in the "for what it's worth" department the gear described shouldn't outdo the output of the charging system.  Before I got my Gerbing stuff years ago I checked the power requirements of the gear and one full set of jacket liner, gloves, pants and socks were ok even running on the output of an 05.  The 06 and newer bikes have a charging system with more output than the did 05.  So relative to the gear described the bike should have kept up.

If the bike did not, and if it's not as simple as a cable problem, yeap, something is obviously a problem.  Battery or something.  But it'll have to be diagnosed and discovered.

Longest day I ever did with the heated gear on continuously was from Maggie Valley back to Joplin, MO one trip.  That's about a 750 mile day and one of those trips several years ago was such the gear was on all day long.  I didn't have the socks on but had everything else.  With everything on and the headlight on high beam I could see tell-tales of the system not quite keeping up.  Running without the spot lights or with the headlight on low beam and it was all good.  I think that was when HIDs were installed; maybe still the halogens.  Just not sure.  With an LED later that might have been enough to make a difference.

You can't really trust your volt gauge to give you adequate information to know what you're wanting all the time in a case like this.  Mother Harley won't spring to give us more informative amp gauges though.  So sometimes we're left (literally) in the dark.
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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2016, 02:23:43 PM »

I have run 600 mile days on a few different bikes since 09, and never had an issue with the charging system.  I wear pants, jacket liner and gloves.  These the 09 had regular head lights, the other 3 have had LED head lights.
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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2016, 03:20:23 PM »

I have a 14 Limited as well. I use gerbing heated gloves, socks, pants and jacket. No issues with charging the battery on mine either. I did calculate the amperage draw when I got the gear and it should not be an issue at all. Longest ride was 6 hours in 30F with light snowfall. Gear kept me warm 100% of the time.
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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2016, 02:45:31 AM »

Could simply be a bad battery, or it got drained down on previous short rides.  Or, is it possible the heated seat (F & R) and grips were on?  How about high beam and passing lamps, beefed-up stereo, etc.  As 2LR noted, we don't have ammeters to see more of what's going on.  Even though the Rushmore CVOs come with the High(er) Output Charging System, they still aren't putting out the max at 2000 to 2500 rpm (i.e., 60 to 70 mph in 6th).  Check the graph below showing amperage vs. rpm.

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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2016, 08:50:57 AM »


Sounds like another recent post where someone was asking about total power draw on a bike with many accessories.  I'll recommend the same thing here.  Have the battery tested first to eliminate that possibility (lot of early battery failures these days), then have the charging system tested to make sure it's putting out what it's supposed to.  Then have a total draw test performed with everything connected and operating.  Once you have all the numbers, it's easy to compare the charging system output at your normal cruising rpm with the amount of total current draw.  You could also check the actual draw of each system so you can make informed decisions about what to keep on and what to turn off if it becomes necessary.

Consider installing a quality ammeter so you can monitor current flow as you ride.  If the gauge indicates zero or negative flow, you will know to shut down some items before you drain the battery and possibly leave yourself stranded.

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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2016, 11:08:28 AM »

I've had the Gerbing Extreme Element jacket and pants, boot insoles, gloves, radar detector, gps, stereo,  heated seat front and rear and heated hand grips and it's not been an issue for us on short hauls or long hauls.

Wasn't even an issue on the 04 SEEG, years ago and they put out less amps back then.
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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2016, 11:25:46 AM »

Almost the same as JCZ except my 05 SEEG has the slightly higher output alternator. Never had an issue.

Heated vest, gloves, boot insoles (with or without 2 up), pants liner only a few times, seat, grips, passing lamps, Motolightes

I've had the Gerbing Extreme Element jacket and pants, boot insoles, gloves, radar detector, gps, stereo,  heated seat front and rear and heated hand grips and it's not been an issue for us on short hauls or long hauls.

Wasn't even an issue on the 04 SEEG, years ago and they put out less amps back then.
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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2016, 12:07:21 PM »

Forgot to mention......mine has often been two complete outfits plugged in......hers usually turned up full blast.   :o
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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2016, 12:29:06 PM »

Almost the same as JCZ except my 05 SEEG has the slightly higher output alternator. Never had an issue.

Heated vest, gloves, boot insoles (with or without 2 up), pants liner only a few times, seat, grips, passing lamps, Motolightes

Trying to remember more details of the use on my 05 (when it was mine).  It had the upgraded charging system and that handled full set of gear (minus only socks) and heated seat and radio with the HW amp and a some bigger speakers and a few extra lights and HID lights.  With everything on and a passenger I'd have to stay on low beam or turn off the spot lights.
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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2016, 01:16:42 PM »

I think it was all the red - it just sucked the energy out of the electrical system  :nixweiss:
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Re: Heated gear
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2016, 08:00:23 PM »

I think it was all the red - it just sucked the energy out of the electrical system  :nixweiss:

Could be Duane.  Red is fast; and shocking (yeah, that's the ticket).
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