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Hog Wild

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Down side to lowering?
« on: May 21, 2007, 10:57:53 AM »

Hi ya. Newbie here.
I am taking delivery on my SEUC2 Thursday and having the dealer lower front and rear with the short shocks. I am doing it cause I am about  5'8" and like to have my feet flat on the ground at a stop, but it seems that a lower CG would make the bike handle better anyway. Why not lowered from the factory? Is there a down side to lowering? Do run out of travel? It shouldn't ride any different with the air suspension.
Just wondering.
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Re: Down side to lowering?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2007, 10:59:52 AM »

most of the CVO touring bikes came lowered, so i see no real downside, i can scrape my floorboard in a hard corner. never had any problems
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Re: Down side to lowering?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2007, 11:05:58 AM »

Good morning Hog Wild !

I send you the  :welcome_005: from FRANCE

It'll be nice for the other members if you present you in the thread "New Member Introduction"
with a pic of your bike  :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Down side to lowering?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2007, 11:08:11 AM »

Hog Wild,
Welcome to the site glad to have you join us. :2vrolijk_21: When you get a chance you should go to this board - New Member Introduction and start a thread to introduce yourself. Don't forget to include pictures of your bike when you do. We like to see new bikes w/happy bike owners. ;D

As Naitram stated most of the CVO Touring bikes came lowered, and I believe it was the SEUC/SEUC2 that came normal ride height. Not sure why the MoCo did this. :confused5: You shouldn't have any adverse problems from lowering it at all. You may loose some ground clearance and drag a floorboard every now and then if you get aggressive in the corners, but normal riding/comfort will not be altered.

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Re: Down side to lowering?
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2007, 11:47:41 AM »

The 06/07 SEUC's are indeed standard Ultra Classic suspension.  If I'm not mistaken, it is slightly over 3" of total travel.  the only down side to lowering both ends is removing 1" of travel.  I'm also 5'8", 29" inseam,  but elected to go with the Legend Air Ride...I can drop the rear of the bike 3.25 inches when I need both feet flat on the ground, then raise it to whatever height I want for ride/conditions while moving.  Platinum Air Ride is another good system.  They are pricey, but far and away superior shocks to the stock units.  But if you're after a better shock, IMO before I spent the money on the shorter stock HD Air shocks, I would at least go with a shorter version of the Progressive 440's...a lot better shock than the HD stock unit and you've accomplished the same goal.  The stock suspension on any HD leaves a lot to be desired...you don't really know how bad it is until you've ridden something that's been improved.  It all depends on your ultimate goal...just getting your feet on the ground better, or improving the suspension at the same time.

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Re: Down side to lowering?
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2007, 11:48:23 AM »

I did a pretty drastic lowering on our '98 ann road king, and it adversersly altered the ride to the negative.  The rear end would bottom out on rough roads, rail tracks and such.  The front end had so little movement it would cause me to have pains in my shoulder blades. Left turns were a major problem, could not lay over enough sometimes depending on the camber of the road.  Always dragging chrome and tail pipes.  We ended up putting it back to 12" and now it has none of those problems.  My 05 SEEG came lowered from the factory, and I have had no problems at all.  Wishing for absolute flat footedess, is not all that it is cracked up to be.  30,000 miles, no problems.  
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Re: Down side to lowering?
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2007, 12:49:58 PM »

Hog Wild  welcome aboard :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Down side to lowering?
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2007, 05:22:40 PM »

A lowered bike will corner worse, not better. The center of gravity plays a small role, but Lean Angle is what you need for cornering! The inertia while cornering will neutralize a higher center of gravity, but you need Lean Angle to get the bike to corner better! You don't want it top heavy either. But keep it as close to standard height as possible or you'll be scraping chit everywhere if you like to play! Hoist!
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Re: Down side to lowering?
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 06:35:28 PM »

Congrats on the new bike, be sure to send us some pics and an intro if possible. You really need to ensure there is enough clearance for those tight turns, OCD is one thing, replacng scraped chrome is another.
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Re: Down side to lowering?
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2007, 07:44:34 PM »

A lowered bike will corner worse, not better. The center of gravity plays a small role, but Lean Angle is what you need for cornering! The inertia while cornering will neutralize a higher center of gravity, but you need Lean Angle to get the bike to corner better! You don't want it top heavy either. But keep it as close to standard height as possible or you'll be scraping chit everywhere if you like to play! Hoist!
Not only are lean angle different ( easy to see with my bike with legends on rear you can lower to 10 inches and easily see way bike leans) but lowering can (depending amount of lowering compress shocks to give "stiffer" ride ( also know because of legends when rear seal went out on one shock and they depressed to 10" and was like riding a hardtail!) John
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Re: Down side to lowering?
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2007, 09:31:45 PM »

Welcome to the site Hog Wild :2vrolijk_21: Good luck with your new bike.
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