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[ontos]

I'm a newbie. Never had a fuel injected bike before although I've had several Harleys and been been riding for 40 years. I just bought an 08 RKSE and after reading this forum wanted to do this one right from the start. I rode it nice for 1000 miles and then took it to the local dealer to have the 1000 service, SEA/C, RHTD and the SE super tuner. Also had it dynoed. After three weeks, I got it back today.  I heard the standard BS about how it takes time to do the right tune and the dyno guy was on vacation... Any way, I get home and look closely at the bill and see that they have installed the SERT instead of the super SERT. I didn't catch it at the dealership because they said they were discounting the dyno because I waited so long. So I call the dealer and tell him the situation, I'm told the super tuner "wouldn't take" on my bike so they did the sert. Never told me anything, just did it and credited me the difference. They gave a printout for the dyno with two lines, torque 110.9 And HP 90.  Not exactly good numbers from what I've read here. After talking to a couple people at the dealership who knew less then me, I get a tech who mentions maybe the dealership doesn't have the right software to do the super tuner.
 I apoligize for the length of this.
 Here's the question: Is there a big difference between the super tuner and the SERT? What information should I have gotten from the dyno? The dyno was not done at the dealer.

[Keats]

The normal dyno sheet will give you graphs on how the power comes on,
date and time of dyno, temperature, relative humidity and graph the crossover point of 5252 rpms

all this info verifies that the dyno was actually run

I am not sure the super SERT is worth the extra money, maybe to some guys for some added features, but most it would mean nothing.
recording time....increased
ability to access map adjustments via laptop
these are 2 I can think of...

[Chief]

As far as getting a proper tune, it shouldn't matter. They both only make corrections to the map in the ECM. The end result could be the same, depending on the skill of the tuner. To put a positive spin on it, there is a good chance the tuner is more familiar with the SERT than with the Super SERT just because it has been around longer and is well understood by many.

You should be OK.

[ontos]

Thanks for the replies. I walked away from the dealer feeling screwed as usual. Are the torque (110.9) and HP (90) average for my setup?

[Keats]

Thanks for the replies. I walked away from the dealer feeling screwed as usual. Are the torque (110.9) and HP (90) average for my setup?

I do not know about average, but my number were 83 hp and 102 torque. I was disappointed but The engine was not even broke in (could not control my OCD)
I think I am better than that now just from how it performs.
I would be very happy with those numbers.

Anytime you can get torque numbers at the displacement numbers   110 CI and 110 torque you are doing very well.
The only way I know of getting past those barriers is to open up the engine and address cams, heads, and compression ratio's and that set an entirely different scenario up with beefing up the bottom end.

[igofar]

Thanks for the replies. I walked away from the dealer feeling screwed as usual. Are the torque (110.9) and HP (90) average for my setup?

Yup, those are the numbers we are seeing for a stage 1 110. Pretty sad when you think of all the 95" engines that will do these numbers with very little work.
My numbers at stage 1 were 89/109....

Brad