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SPIDERMAN

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Re: Anything New For A Lower 1st Gear, Baker 7 spd. Exception????
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2008, 01:10:01 PM »

Like I just said, my wife and I are hitting the road....

I've been killing time here while she's been doing the vacuuming with her new central vacuum system.  When I sold the Nomad and 540 bbc motor, all she wanted was central vacuum in the house, which I so graciously bought for her.  What I got was a new 73" HDTV, new Yamaha 3800 receiver, new Panasonic Blu-Ray player, new Milwaukee Iron boardtrack chassis, a new Ultima 113", Ultima 6 spd and 2" belt drive.  I also paid off the SERK and some other debt, so I can wait a bit for her to have fun cleaning....

Later dudes and dudettes...

We're outta here------->

P.S. Of course, I'll be baaaaack... A very poor Arnold impersonation.

All very nice of course, but you no longer own the Nomad

What year by the way ?  (56 otr 57 )

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Re: Anything New For A Lower 1st Gear, Baker 7 spd. Exception????
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2008, 11:40:52 AM »

All very nice of course, but you no longer own the Nomad

What year by the way ?  (56 Or 57 )

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1955.... Some might say it was the "ONLY" year of the Nomads because it was the only year that had body specific styling, like the rear wheel wells unlike the sedans and other wagons and it had a unique interior to that model only.  The '56 '57 used Bel Air interiors from other models, still very nice though.

I was always and still am, a gasser kind of guy.  If you go to my signature you can pictures of my Nomad as far as I had it built.  When I moved here from Michigan, back in July of '02, I had the Nomad here in my garage and did absolutely nothing on it.  My job just kills me for long term projects.  But the '76 FLH was easy and only took about 3 months to finish.  The boardtrack racer project will be another somewhat sort term and "easy" compared to the Willys I built and the Nomad project.

So as I said yesterday, we're outta here again for some beautiful Missouri riding.  Actually I think we're going to Illinois to check out Ted's HD and maybe catch a burger at Fast Eddy's in Alton.

Thanks again for all the input on the trans questions.

Later........
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Re: Anything New For A Lower 1st Gear, Baker 7 spd. Exception????
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2008, 11:54:42 AM »

I comend you for the ability to sell your nomad. What a great car it must have been!!!!! I would be morning the loss of that car, and I don't get attached to vehicles. :'(
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Re: Anything New For A Lower 1st Gear, Baker 7 spd. Exception????
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2008, 12:02:57 PM »

http://www.andrewsproducts.com/PDF_files/catalog/29_BeltPulleys.pdf
Been thinking about this a s an option.  First is to tall especially when pulling a trailer.
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Re: Anything New For A Lower 1st Gear, Baker 7 spd. Exception????
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2008, 05:42:44 PM »

http://www.andrewsproducts.com/PDF_files/catalog/29_BeltPulleys.pdf
Been thinking about this a s an option.  First is to tall especially when pulling a trailer.

I'm not sure which way I'd be more comfortable, clutch basket sprocket or the drive sprocket.

With the clutch sprocket you stop short of taking off the inner primary so that stays intact.  On the drive sprocket you have to pull it all down and the rear of the bike.  Then you have to deal with the speedo calibration and buy the S&S calibration box @ $139.95.

After riding today with the wife on and some stuff in the bags etc, I think the clutch sprocket would do it just fine without losing too much top end.  It would make my back roads cruising a lot nicer because I do cruise in 6th at about 60 mph, but I don't lug the motor or I down shift.  A slightly lower high gear would be just the thing, I think.

Bigdog, if you've looked at my Picture Trail ablums, you'll see that the '55 Nomad was not fiinished, but a very nice starting point.  I did all the floors and clipped the frontend to the striaght axle and had that very nice Beck Racing Engines 540 BBC 660 hp and brand new 4L80E GM O/D trans with a 3,500 stall lockup converter.  I had over $52k invested in all new interior, new glass, new wiring, new chrome where possible and all the original stainless de-dented and polished and the '55 specific Nomad only eyebrows / fender spears and door spears all redone to show quality.  As some of you know in hobbies like bike or cars, it's not just a few dollars here and there, it's thousands here and there.  I guess for the $14k I had in the motor alone I could have a very nice Jims 131 in my SERK, but as you guys also know, selling projects rarely get you what you have in them.  So I took a big hit but I'm happy with what I have now and especially with the VERY happy wife.

The Willys is the one my wife still slaps me over though.  That car was kick ass, no doubt.  Blown '57 Chrysler 392 hemi, 654 hp, 12 seconds flat @ 118 mph on mufflers and street tires.  I drove that car from Michigan to Bonneville and then on to California via Yellowstone National Park.  We left Michigan alone and did over 6500 miles in 23 days.  This was a cruise with Rod & Custom magazine and boy was it cool doing that....

I digresssssssssssss.

I might do the sprocket this winter, but I'll keep an open mind till then.
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Re: Anything New For A Lower 1st Gear, Baker 7 spd. Exception????
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2008, 07:51:26 PM »


Dan, the compensator isn't there just for rider comfort, it's main purpose is to protect the trans and engine from shock loading.  That's why I don't like the non-compensator engine sprocket idea.  The IDS helps with the shock loading between the trans and rear wheel, but it doesn't eliminate the need for the compensator IMHO.

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Re: Anything New For A Lower 1st Gear, Baker 7 spd. Exception????
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2008, 07:55:40 PM »

Dan, the compensator isn't there just for rider comfort, it's main purpose is to protect the trans and engine from shock loading.  That's why I don't like the non-compensator engine sprocket idea.  The IDS helps with the shock loading between the trans and rear wheel, but it doesn't eliminate the need for the compensator IMHO.

Jerry

My personal opinion on this subject is that the shock absorbed by the compensator is what snapped those 11 & 13 mm belts in the Primo belt drive kits everybody used to run. Now with these humongous wide belts, they don't snap. Me, I like the chain primary and compensator. I agree with Jerry.

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Re: Anything New For A Lower 1st Gear, Baker 7 spd. Exception????
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2008, 09:52:18 PM »

My personal opinion on this subject is that the shock absorbed by the compensator is what snapped those 11 & 13 mm belts in the Primo belt drive kits everybody used to run. Now with these humongous wide belts, they don't snap. Me, I like the chain primary and compensator. I agree with Jerry.

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Speaking of compensators, what about harmonic balancers on V8's????

Here is the harmonic balancer I ran on my Willys motor.



Actually with the blower setup like this, they say that you can get by without the harmonic balancer because the belt will take up the shock load quite nicely.  Now if it's externally balanced motor then you have to have the weights on the flywheel/flexplate and the harmonic balancer.  But I was lucky and had mine internally balanced.

Again, I digress....

I agree on the compensator for the V-twins.  The thumper factor is pretty great and the compensator does its job.

Now on my new project, I'm only going to be running a 2" wide belt drive.


I know, the work bench is really cluttered.  I've since done a spring cleaning and have my garage rearranged to be a bit more user friendly.

I think with today's Kevlar belts etc, I should be strong enough, but I'm not sure about the vibration from the crank pulses.  It would probably be difficult if not impossible to integrate a compensator of some sort into the front drive sprocket.  Any ideas on that guys????
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