Thanks for the reply mrmagloo ..I DID misunderstand your post in regard to tuning,Sorry, It was my mistake not your writing...
Back to the good stuff. As far as I can tell, yes the PCIII is the was the most successful tuner used by many and the PC-V is for 2009 and above. As far as my set up , yea, basically stock, BUT VERY LEAN as a result of a lean factory map and then the addition of pipes..I have yet to get an oil temp as my stick thermometers pegs out and my scope had a dead battery but ready to go now.I think I really need to establish a baseline reading b/f any mods and then I can make an objective decision on whether or not the mods performed as expected. I will stop lugging my bike, thought it keep it cooler,duh factor....Really didn't know if the higher revs with more air moving along with more combustion heat --OR-- less combustion lower air movement would be the best but in hindsight lugging is never a good solution for anything I can think of, I think I am really close to causing damage and NEED to get this corrected NOW, or lose the season and a whole lot of cash...
OH , almost forgot, we are somewhat limited here in our choices for tuners as I have heard MANY TRUSTED LONG TIME HARLEY guys reporting that after custom tunes they had multiple problems they returned to the shop for 'tweaking' and WERE CHARGED FOR A SECOND TUNE !!!! That's unacceptable to charge another $490 for what was less than a GOOD job in the first place. Many of these people finally gave up and purchased a PC and were SATISFIED that their bike ran just decent after the CUSTOM tune.. All a matter of what we have lost in this country SERVICE? If I were on a trip and had some problem with the PC III I can disconnect it, re map with a push of a couple of buttons, call the factory, etc..But your experience is quite different as the factory barely knew the product , again the poor service in America syndrome.. With a bad custom tune you can
? I was referred to a GUY who supposed to be the local HARLEY GUY,,He knew it all..I had him mount new tires and asked his opinion on what I should do to protect my bike in the way of add-ons..On my first visit there was no question in his authority..You need a Fuel pack, you NEED a K&N air kit, YOU NEED all fluid change to amsoil in the primary and Purple in the engine and trans... On my second visit to him ( for a bolt) he said with the same authority ( bear in mind this is ONE WEEK LATER) YOU NEED a PC with the bung and O2 sensor, YOU NEED a Big Sucker kit, YOU need all synthetic fluid change-he never asked when the last fluid change was the fact was that that was one of the first things I did and I used all Syn3 as this is what the previous owner used and I really didn't have time to start verifying there was no problem switching to another oil product..So long story but I think it demonstrates the typical PLUS SALES HD owners face every time they walk into any facility dealing with HD.. I always feel the SALES BS, I hate that..The fact that this guy actually switched EVERY recommendation he made just one week earlier !!! How can I trust these people?? That's why I am here, with all the guys who actually ride and turn a wrench..I am thankful everyday for the Internet resources.
I would agree that a GOOD custom tune by a RELIABLE shop should be the best possible action but again you need to have one nearby., think that gets back to my comments about using the POWER COMANDER we have options, very good options, to get a pretty good tune w/o being having to pay multiple times for the same service.. If your known choices are as mine, no known local GOOD TUNER, PCIII (2005) is about the only answer... I really wish I had a good tuner nearby as I believe they would actually spot pending problems etc thereby saving you a lot of time/money in the long run.I am a FIRM believer in preventative maintenance( actually predictive maintenance) and I am lost for now with my new bike..I will learn and I will make GOOD mods eventually. I do not intend to purchase anything that does not improve the reliability or longevity for along time, too much money on these toys before they are stable. I am pretty convince dthat HD should take care of many of these issues as most of the basis of complaints are just poor engineering but WE keep throwing money at them, why should they ??.But for now I have to listen,, learn, and make mistakes hopefully nothing too costly.... Now I need to look for the source of my oil leak -- ON A HARLEY
SORRY FOR THE REALLY LONG POST , AGAIN....SO have you found a resolution to your starting problem ?? Actually sounds as though the tuner should have returned the system to a known baseline HD load and THEN tuned. You need a good baseline in order to make good decisions when problems as your arise. If the update was not yet available well then it's just the roll of the dice.I Know that the moment I buy a PC they will add the cooling feature , my luck!
Thanks, Bill
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