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[rodney65]

I have noticed when I'm riding my 2010 SESG 110 motor and once the engine gets hot if I put the bike in nuetral it makes a real odd hard ticking noise. Once I put it back in gear the noise goes away. Anyone had this problem or know what it is?

[Heatwave]

I have noticed when I'm riding my 2010 SESG 110 motor and once the engine gets hot if I put the bike in nuetral it makes a real odd hard ticking noise. Once I put it back in gear the noise goes away. Anyone had this problem or know what it is?

Valvetrain...does it sound like a sewing machine that speeds up when you increase the throttle? Normal for the 110 but I'm planning to address it on my 110 with Woods new directional lifters. Shame that it comes that way from the factory.

[grc]

There are lots of folks who have mentioned a similar noise, although many tend to describe it as a clanking or something other than ticking.  Desertbear is one who has posted about it several times, and his is still the same after a complete engine replacement (for a crankshaft issue).  I tend to believe it is either due to play in the trans or clutch, since it goes away when the clutch is released.


Jerry

[rodney65]

Clanking is the better word. It sounds like from the posts that there is nothing Harley can do to fix it.

[HDDOCFL]

My 09 SERG has the same noise when hot, pull in the clutch and the noise goes away, even in neutral. MOCO replaced everything on my first SERG for this noise and them gave me a new bike and after 4,000 miles the noise is on this bike also. Does not seem to hut anything, got a little better when I added the SE Compenstaor sprocket.   Doc

[mjb765]

Valvetrain...does it sound like a sewing machine that speeds up when you increase the throttle? Normal for the 110 but I'm planning to address it on my 110 with Woods new directional lifters. Shame that it comes that way from the factory.

Please post on the results....I would replace them as well if it works.

[TimBone]

Have any of you checked the tension on the primary chain and it also may be that
Inner Primary Bearing(IPB) that has a bunch of metal in it screaming in there.

Just a couple thoughts and of course have the dealer check those things if
you still have the warranty.

I just replaced my IPB with a Baker Kit, the SE Compensator and it is very
quiet in that area.  Engine still makes quilts at the rapid rate, but as long
as I have oil in there I will ride the hell out of it.  23K miles on the bike.

Good Luck.

[Heatwave]

Please post on the results....I would replace them as well if it works.

Will do. Won't have results until early Dec. Planning to have JDs (Bethlehem Pa) upgrade the lifters to Woods directional, measure the crank runout and I'm thinking of converting to TTS and have Dave tune it. The one key aspect of SEPST that I have been particularly disappointed in is the fact that I can't measure AFR in each cylinder separately with the HD software.

I believe that the overlap of my Woods 408-6 cam is just too confusing for the SuperTuner to properly tune. Came to that conclusion since my Smarttuning has gotten excellent performance benefit however multiple times when I've gotten dynos runs done, the sniffers have shown one or the other cylinder to be off rather substantially (AFR) even though the average might have been OK.

Just can't understand why the HD software (SuperTuner) would provide multiple different independent metrics for both the front and rear cylinder and yet the most important one - AFR, they do not let you view or adjust for each cylinder separately. Given the overlap of my cam, I'm coming to the conclusion that  I really need to move to Mastertune which provides both cylinder AFRs separately. Any thoughts on the conclusion I've reached?

[Air-Cooled]

I thought this was said to be due to the rockers making contact with the inside of the valve cover, especially when you hear it from the left rear corner of the rear cylinder. I also thought that the new head upgrade/recall was supposed to address this on the earlier 110s and that the '09 and up models were fine.   My '07 Springer did not qualify for the head upgrade, and it occasionally makes that sound, esp. when hot.

[grc]

I thought this was said to be due to the rockers making contact with the inside of the valve cover, especially when you hear it from the left rear corner of the rear cylinder. I also thought that the new head upgrade/recall was supposed to address this on the earlier 110s and that the '09 and up models were fine.   My '07 Springer did not qualify for the head upgrade, and it occasionally makes that sound, esp. when hot.

Different issue.  The rocker box to valve spring clearance issue of which you speak resulted in a redesigned rocker box with more clearance, and it should have eliminated that issue on later models.  Earlier years can either have the new box installed or the old box modified if they have the problem.


Jerry

[sooiee]

sounds like the compensator to me.  You may want to suggest the dealer take a peak at that.