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Re: 2013 Cvo road glide likes the look of stock pipes BUT...
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2013, 05:21:53 PM »

So if I removed my cat, installed mufflers (V&H), bought a pertuned PCV that I plugged in, saved several hundred dollars and my bike runs flawlessly what would I have gained from buying a Fulsac setup and the TTS tuner?

What, a couple of HP/TQ on a dyno?

Like I said, I've riding for YEARS around Missouri with trips to Yellowstone, Florida, Milwaukee, Blueridge Parkway and all points in between and I have yet to see anyone running a Fullsac setup. Nobody.... To me, 20 years of riding and talking to other bikers and never hearing of or about Fulsac, except on this site, says a lot.

I'm sure Steve makes great stuff but let's not pass aroung the glass of koolaide likes its the gospel. I'd like to see  some very convincing 3rd party engineering data proving how Steve's X-pipe design is hundreds of dollars better than a Decatted 2-1-2 header. A little I can understand but discrediting the benefits of a Decatted stock header borders on silly.

I'm guessing V&H, Reinhart, PowerCommander and the many other Harely pipe and tuner manufacturers will soon be out of business because of the superior engineering of Fulsac.

Not knocking you Steve, but CVOHarely.com is a Fulsac leaning site. It just gets old.

If I'm not mistaken, Fullsac didn't exist until a few years ago.  And, nobody is saying it is the be all end all in exhaust systems, only that it WORKS.  Other systems do too.  I know several people running the Fullsac stuff that are not on this site.  If anybody "leans" in any direction, it is in the direction of what functions properly, gets good customer support, is made well, and is a simple upgrade that maintains the stock look and the stock cans with the EPA stamp on them.  And iit is not obnoxiously loud.  Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything, only making suggestions as to what they KNOW will work, usually from personal experiences.
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Re: 2013 Cvo road glide likes the look of stock pipes BUT...
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2013, 05:22:21 PM »

To OP:
Did you get answers to your questions?
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Re: 2013 Cvo road glide likes the look of stock pipes BUT...
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2013, 05:53:59 PM »

If I'm not mistaken, Fullsac didn't exist until a few years ago.  And, nobody is saying it is the be all end all in exhaust systems, only that it WORKS.  Other systems do too.  I know several people running the Fullsac stuff that are not on this site.  If anybody "leans" in any direction, it is in the direction of what functions properly, gets good customer support, is made well, and is a simple upgrade that maintains the stock look and the stock cans with the EPA stamp on them.  And iit is not obnoxiously loud.  Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything, only making suggestions as to what they KNOW will work, usually from personal experiences.

Glad you answered this.
I started to, but counted to 10 first!  :2vrolijk_21:

I'm a supporter of what WORKS, money is not my first consideration.
I recommend parts and services to my friends (I'm NOT in business) only after I try them myself.
I have ridden all over the cont. US on various bikes (all Electra Glides) and my current '10 has 79000 miles on it.
My '09 racked up 35000 miles the first 5 months.
Even my '95 has over 150000 miles. Yes, I ride.
I have had Fullsac parts on my bikes for years, starting with the true dual conversion on the older exhaust systems, still running fine, not cracks, splits, discolorations, etc, etc.
I have also had my last 2 bikes on the dyno.............for HOURS! Yes, I could see the difference between stock head pipes, non cat head pipe, x-pipe, air cleaner, etc  etc
I'm NOT going to post all the dyno charts because that is irrelevant to YOUR particular bike. Lets just make general statements that, YES there was a significant increase in power/torque as we progressed through the upgrades. In fact, I "detuned" the bike a little just to make it more friendly pulling my big-ass trailer.

All that being said, I also have some seat time with various other tuners, pipes, seats, bars, tires..etc....etc, and they all run fine to their owners demands, but I know what works for me.
We have also set up some of the club bikes here with various combos depending how they ride, and we "dial" them in to fit the rider/riding style.
To each his own, and I will not bash other parts, tuners, tires, etc etc.
If you want some positive input from "real world" riding, and first hand experience, believe me, I've "been there, done that".
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