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Monster Round and Fuelpak FPS Install
« on: July 15, 2014, 08:22:34 AM »

I just bought Vance & Hines Monster rounds chrome, a Fuelpak FP3, and a Ram Mount Aqua Pro 20 with tough claw mount. I purchased pipes and fuelpak from J&P.

http://www.rammount.com/Products/AppleMounts/iPhoneMounts/RAMHOLAQ72COU/tabid/5048/Default.aspx

http://www.vanceandhines.com/store/touring/slipons/16773

http://fp3.vanceandhines.com/#fuelpakfp3

I received the items Friday and installed them that evening.

Pipes

Changing mufflers on these bikes is about as simple as changing the oil, if you have not done it before it entails removing the saddle bags, loosening 2 nuts and bolts and a clamp ring per muffler. Vance and Hines were kind enough to include some nice packing materials in the muffler boxes, which I placed under the mufflers before removing, to prevent an accidental drop. I also wore rubber gloves to prevent any finger prints from getting on the new mufflers.

I noted the position of the clamp nut and took a picture, then loosened the nut on the clamp ring first, which clamps the mufflers to the exhaust pipes.

Secondly, I removed the 2 nuts and bolts from the saddlebag supports, which frees the muffler for removal. The only thing holding the muffler on at this point is the friction fit remaining from the clamp. To free this fit I sprayed 3 small squirts of WD 40 at the point of connection. I then turned the mufflers left and right a bit to allow the oil to penetrate. After I could spin the muffler from roughly 3 to 9 o'clock I added some gentle pulling, while turning, and the mufflers released after about 6 turns.

Thirdly, I took my shop vac and sucked any loose material out of my exhaust pipes and out of the new mufflers. I found pieces of some kind of yellow insulation material remaining in the exhaust pipes and some small pieces of packing material in the new mufflers. I previously found that omitting this step means that when you start the bike up after the new pipes are on this material blows out and sticks to your end caps and can stain them. I cleaned the exhaust pipes with alcohol to remove any WD 40.

Fourthly, I placed the new band clamps on the new mufflers and slipped them onto the exhaust, resting the pipe on the packing material. I then placed the 2 nuts and bolts back into the saddlebag supports and hand tightened only. I then used a rubber hammer to tap lightly on the end of the mufflers to insure they were seated and made sure they looked even. I then placed the clamps towards the end of the mufflers and turned them so the nut was back in the original position under the exhaust pipe. I tightened the nut using a torque wrench to 45 ft. lbs. Once the band clamps were tight I fully tightened the saddlebag nuts.
Lastly, I cleaned the new mufflers with alcohol to insure no finger prints, dirt or grime remained.

Tuner

Before putting the saddlebags back on I removed the left hand side cover so I could access the 6-Pin HD-LAN connector. Once the cover is removed you will see 2 gray connectors, the lower connector is the 6-Pin HD-LAN connector and the top one is your accessory connector, which holds a wire for your auxiliary switch on the back of your fork (good to know). There is a rubber plug on the connector to protect it from dirt and I removed that then forcefully slid the gray connector to the left so it becomes free and easily accessible.

I plugged the Fuelkpak into the connector and turned the bike power switch on. The green LED’s behaved as outlined in the instructions and I paired the fuelpak to my iPhone 5s. I opened the fuelpak app and the home screen loaded and showed a Bluetooth connection to the fuelpak. I hit the map lookup icon and got an error message: Motorcycle not supported.
I powered down, uninstalled and reinstalled the app and tried again. I got the same message. At this point it’s after hours on Friday so there is nothing for me to do except wait till Monday and call Vance and Hines.

After speaking with Vance and Hines Monday they suggested I try an android phone to connect because they recently discovered an issue with ios and some of their boxes. I used my wife’s phone and got a Bluetooth connection but a different error and still could not proceed. At this point I had Vance and Hines on the phone walking through the steps with me. The tech said I had a bad box and he would overnight me a new one with a RMA number and shipping label to return my old one. They apparently had a run of some bad boxes during production.

I await the new fuelpak.

I did put the bike back together and ride around the block to check out the pipes however, real nice sound. I am very pleased and would not want anything any louder. They have a real nice deep rumble.

I will follow up with the Fuelpak situation.






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Re: Monster Round and Fuelpak FPS Install
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2014, 08:24:32 AM »

packing material
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Re: Monster Round and Fuelpak FPS Install
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2014, 08:25:33 AM »

Band clamp nut
« Last Edit: July 15, 2014, 08:29:01 AM by Smithbss »
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Re: Monster Round and Fuelpak FPS Install
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2014, 08:27:12 AM »

Saddlebag Supports
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Re: Monster Round and Fuelpak FPS Install
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2014, 08:39:03 AM »

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Re: Monster Round and Fuelpak FPS Install
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2014, 11:45:59 AM »

I arrived home last night to find the the new FuelPak sitting at my doorstep.

I plugged it in and it immediately prompted for a firmware upgrade, which I did. After the upgrade it connected to my iPhone 5s and I was able to search maps and choose my exhaust options. I flashed my bike with a Vance & Hines stored map and took a ride.

It rides smooth and there is not any backfires, it is a noticeable improvement over the stock version.

I immediately rode it to the harley dealer so they could do the front brake line recall. I will play with it more after getting it back this Friday.
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Re: Monster Round and Fuelpak FPS Install
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2014, 02:19:01 PM »

I have the Fuelpack FP3 on My CVO with Monster Rounds as well. I also had the Power Duals installed. Love it!
Took me 15mns to set up and runs great. I have about 500 miles on it with various road conditions and speeds. Loads of torque and power.
I might autotune later but don't really see the need for it. Cool to be able to check head temperature and other info on my i-phone.
I used to have some backfiring on hot days with the CVO with stock setup. No more...
I also own a 2003 road king classic with big bore, stage 2 (203 cams) and professional tune and it feels very slow compared to the cvo with this setup.
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Re: Monster Round and Fuelpak FPS Install
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2014, 03:09:02 AM »

Any updates from either of you guys? I just got my FP3 and Pro Pipe Chrome today and would like to hear all about it. I can't put my pipes on until I grab a couple new exhaust gaskets from HD, but I had to try the FP3 out with the stock exhaust in the meantime. I fudged the map and said I have HO slip-ons plus I changed the throttle progressivity to moderate which is a couple notches over stock. I also dropped the rev limiter to 5500 since I don't see any reason to ever take it to 6200 and mine rarely goes past 5000 even when I'm feeling froggy.

I flashed the changes to the bike and wouldn't you know it has to be raining when I finished! I started it for a minute and blipped the throttle a couple times and it does feel more snappy than before, can't wait to ride it! This is a really neat gadget for the money and I'm dying to play with it more when my new phone comes ... had to use the wife's phone since my android is only 2.2 instead of the 4.0 or better needed to use the tuner. I like all the advanced features you can play with, but would be afraid to screw with some of them in fear of screwing something up.

Enough rambling for now ... like I said, I'd love to hear more about what you guys have done with your FP3 since you got it, thanks.   
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Re: Monster Round and Fuelpak FPS Install
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2014, 03:07:48 PM »

I now have about 1500 miles on my setup (Power Duals, Monster Rounds and FP3) and I am really amazed with the torque and power. I thought I would have had to autotune (not too late for that) but I do not see the need. Way better than stock!
I am sure I could have gotten an extra horse power or two with a professional tune but that would also have meant an extra $400 minimum + dealing with my local harley dealer doing the tuning and not a tune from Vance and Hines for that specific bike (Road King CVO) with those pipes. I also like getting the readings on my iphone in real time (head temp, rpm...etc.)
I know that no two bikes are the same etc..etc but I doubt I could have gotten that much more from a tune. I can still autotune If I want it to be perfect. Basically, Vance and Hines already did the tune for me for this setup and I flashed it to the bike..
For people who are not familiar with it, the FP3 module has preset maps for different bikes and pipe/header settings (my setup was already on the list). After you download the map for your setup, you flash the bike and you can take the box out and put it away (unless you need to access the readings on your iPhone or Android as you ride).
Sure works for me!
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Re: Monster Round and Fuelpak FPS Install
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2014, 02:58:11 AM »

That's good news, I hope I'm just as happy as you tomorrow cause I'm about to get started with my pipes right now. I got my gaskets before work today so I'm good to go. I will let you know what I think after I put some miles on the new set up.
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