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Replace the Lifters?
« on: July 02, 2014, 10:37:56 AM »
Bolting in a new cam in a 2014 FLHTK with 800 miles, Good practice to install new lifters? or will the OE be fine with new miles?
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Re: Replace the Lifters?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2014, 10:58:03 AM »
Quote from: Mr D on July 02, 2014, 10:37:56 AM
Bolting in a new cam in a 2014 FLHTK with 800 miles, Good practice to install new lifters? or will the OE be fine with new miles?

Hard to say. I have a somewhat hi-performance 110 with headwork, 58mm TB, hi-lift cam (Woods 408-6), roller rockers, SE adj pushrods making 129/129 power. I ride it pretty hard. I have 41000 miles and about 39000 are with this build. I decided to upgrade the lifters to the Woods Hi-Perf directional lifter given the mileage and higher engine performance.

When the stock OE lifters from 2010 were taken out this Spring, I was somewhat amazed. The lifters looked like they were just removed from the factory packaging. Not a single wear mark even when looking with magnification. The Dealer tech was also somewhat surprised but he said it wasn't the first time he saw stock Harley lifters removed with my mileage and no wear marks.

All that being said there can be internal wear to the roller that's not visible. Since it was apart I went with the new lifters from Woods.

My engine was pretty noisey with the hi-lift cam (.650), hi perf Woods valve springs and larger valves, so I also had some minimal hope that the noise might be reduced with the Woods lifters.

Nope, the sound is just as loud but slightly different. Hard to explain the difference but the clatter is just as loud as it was with the stock lifters. I run Syn 3 in the engine and given the 40000 miles of performance I'm not inclined to change from Syn3 at this point.
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Re: Replace the Lifters?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2014, 10:59:59 AM »
Why take the chance. The OE lifters are a known problem. I'd switch em out for S&S Premiums now! jm2c twinotter
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Re: Replace the Lifters?
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2014, 12:00:46 PM »
S&S premiums or standards (the S&S standards would be fine),but yes,i would change the OEM`s
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Re: Replace the Lifters?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2014, 12:08:16 PM »
Quote from: prodrag1320 on July 02, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
S&S premiums or standards (the S&S standards would be fine),but yes,i would change the OEM`s

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Re: Replace the Lifters?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2014, 12:08:41 PM »
Quote from: twinotter on July 02, 2014, 10:59:59 AM
Why take the chance. The OE lifters are a known problem. I'd switch em out for S&S Premiums now! jm2c twinotter

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Re: Replace the Lifters?
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Re: Replace the Lifters?
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2014, 08:43:03 PM »
Quote from: prodrag1320 on July 02, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
S&S premiums or standards (the S&S standards would be fine),but yes,i would change the OEM`s

"HL2T kit not included"

Should i order these too?
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Re: Replace the Lifters?
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2014, 10:45:19 PM »
Quote from: Mr D on July 07, 2014, 08:43:03 PM
"HL2T kit not included"

Should i order these too?

I'm pretty sure you don't need the limiters...
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Re: Replace the Lifters?
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2014, 03:24:27 AM »
I wouldn't use the travel limiters unless you getting to .675 lift and very agressive ramps, heavy springs, they came stock in my S&S 110 special anniv motor which has the .600 cam (1998) but with the improvements in the S&S lifters I don't think they are needed. I use the S&S evo lifters in my 127 with .640 lift without the travel limiters and they work fine.
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Re: Replace the Lifters?
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2014, 11:58:28 AM »
Quote from: Classic Beast on July 08, 2014, 03:24:27 AM
I wouldn't use the travel limiters unless you getting to .675 lift and very agressive ramps, heavy springs, they came stock in my S&S 110 special anniv motor which has the .600 cam (1998) but with the improvements in the S&S lifters I don't think they are needed. I use the S&S evo lifters in my 127 with .640 lift without the travel limiters and they work fine.

i'm well below that lift.

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Re: Replace the Lifters?
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2014, 02:58:45 AM »
Has there been problems with "new and improved" lifters on the 2014 bike?
I am asking because I have not heard of any.
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