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Highroller54

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Help with brakes and new rotors
« on: April 30, 2015, 11:36:29 PM »

Hello guys & Gals

    About 6 months ago I picked up my Second 2004 SE Deuce.  After a few hundred miles I started acting as if the dual front brake rotors where warped or at least one of them.  On further inspection I pulled the calipers and noticed each one had sticky or stuck pistons.  I rebuilt both calipers, flush out all the old fluid and installed new Lydall Z plus pads, re-assembled and took a test ride, on my first stop, I notice the warped rotor feeling was still there. So I set the bike up on my jack and did a runout check, both rotors where within harley specs.  The left was 5 thousands and the right was 8.  since the caliper rebuild didn’t solve the issues I purchased new rotors.  I installed the new rotors and the problem is now gone. So I’m a happy camper but, my question is while waiting for the new rotors, which where hard to find (discontinued by Harley) I rode the bike and put about 400 miles on the new pads.  Now my new left rotor is showing a smooth and solid brake wear area, but my left is sketchy and doesn’t seem to be touching the rotors in all areas. Will these pabs, level there selves to the new rotors or will they damage my new rotors..  I know that you would normally by new pads when replacing rotors, but they only have 400 miles on them, before the new rotors and only have about 5 or 6 miles since the change. I hate to by new pads again so soon…

Thanks for your help!
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Re: Help with brakes and new rotors
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2015, 08:33:25 AM »


Since you've got very few miles on the pads in total, and hardly any since the rotor change, I don't see where it would be a problem to continue with the same pads.  And the pads should wear in to the new rotors.  You can accelerate the process with a series of moderate to hard braking events, just be careful not to overheat the brakes. 

Your results show how ridiculous the Harley specs for rotors are, btw.  Like many Harley specs and tolerances, they have only one real purpose, and that's to reduce Harley's warranty expense.

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Re: Help with brakes and new rotors
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2015, 10:09:43 AM »

Since you've got very few miles on the pads in total, and hardly any since the rotor change, I don't see where it would be a problem to continue with the same pads.  And the pads should wear in to the new rotors.  You can accelerate the process with a series of moderate to hard braking events, just be careful not to overheat the brakes. 

Your results show how ridiculous the Harley specs for rotors are, btw.  Like many Harley specs and tolerances, they have only one real purpose, and that's to reduce Harley's warranty expense.

Jerry

I totally agree. I have stayed away from Harley Service/shop work except for parts for over 20 years.  Learned the hard way serveral times, thier warranties and work are mostly sub-par, to say the least. I learned to do my wrenching my self.  Harley could be a great company, but burreucrats, creed and bean counters have it by the B*lls. I love thier bikes but hate most of thier personality.

Getting back to the rotors, with the specs I posted above you almost could use the front brakes, would nearly pull you down at a stop and at speed they would cause the front end to wobble violently.  So yes thier specs are crap.

Thanks for the reply, I figured the brakes would be Aok just needed some reassurance.
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Re: Help with brakes and new rotors
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2015, 10:18:27 AM »

Since you've got very few miles on the pads in total, and hardly any since the rotor change, I don't see where it would be a problem to continue with the same pads.  And the pads should wear in to the new rotors.  You can accelerate the process with a series of moderate to hard braking events, just be careful not to overheat the brakes. 

Your results show how ridiculous the Harley specs for rotors are, btw.  Like many Harley specs and tolerances, they have only one real purpose, and that's to reduce Harley's warranty expense.

Jerry

Forgot to mentin these are what Harley call Floating rotors and they warpped. Its no unheard of but other than alignment forgivness thats what thier main purpose is, not to do, as in warp.
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Re: Help with brakes and new rotors
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2015, 10:26:29 AM »

Forgot to mentin these are what Harley call Floating rotors and they warpped. Its no unheard of but other than alignment forgivness thats what thier main purpose is, not to do, as in warp.
May be unheard of elsewhere but not Harley... many (including myself) have had their rotors warped... BTW mine are the detonator floating rotors as yours are if they are the stock ones. Luckily mine were replaced under the ESP.

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