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CVODON

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Re: Excessive heat after ECM flash and vtune
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2015, 09:18:17 PM »

Man catch a breath, you, in my opinion are wrong. I like my HD's, I have had evo's, 1st gen twin cams and a couple 110's. They just are not as bad as you say. I had 2 warranties on my 05, one a seat replace, the other I can't remember. One claim on my 09, the ABS pump failed and so far nothing on my 15. They are just not as bad as poster above claims, in my opinion. And they keep selling at a good clip. Bad products normally do not do that.
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Re: Excessive heat after ECM flash and vtune
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2015, 10:26:25 AM »

  Sorry to hear that most new buyers are still sucked into the "Harley myth". The loyal HD fans will always buy another Harley, sales of new bikes proves that over and over again.
I've been watching HD lower their standards on quality, reducing well made parts like a forged crank to cast, replacing the original Timken dual bearing on the drive side to a big old single bearing that no longer helps maintain crank placement, go from steel connecting rods to powdered metal, change out a compensator that worked well to a new design, now redesigned what 4 times and still failing. A hydraulic clutch assembly that has continuously given trouble enough to have several recalls. FBW throttle systems that have proven to be touchy and not exactly bulletproof. And lets not forget the "clunkshift" tranny that gives up its bearings whenever it takes a notion or the wheel bearings that fail regularily. Then, you can have a good hard look at the latest lifters HD presents as usable, the original lifters (B) in the 00/08 seldom gave any trouble to anyone, now brand new bikes rattle like they've got Parkinsons after 10K or sooner, some have failed  500miles!! And the price of a new HD keep climbing, even with the huge cost savings they have received by cutting out the quality parts, and replacing with overseas stuff.
But the faithful will STILL buy their new Harley, hoping that by chance they get one that wasn't assembled on Monday or Friday, praying that the bolts and nuts won't fall off because no-one bothered to use locktite or check the torque guns that week. Ignoring the fact that cranks specs now are so liberal to avoid warranty claims that only a few years ago would mean immediate replacement. My 01 spec'd the crank max runout at .0015 and said it needed replacement at .003" New engines are typically .005/.006" and max extended to .012" before they consider it a warranty issue. And you all tend to ignore all this and buy that new HD anyway.   Blind leading  the blind   Buffalo
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Re: Excessive heat after ECM flash and vtune
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2015, 02:28:39 PM »

As for a local tuner i personally like Tilleys in statesville nc they have tuned all my bikes, Jody did on bike and a a tec named shawn did my serg 09 and runs real  strong and the heat is barable...
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Re: Excessive heat after ECM flash and vtune
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2015, 11:38:17 PM »

Get it dyno tuned and have the tuner put the Lambda table in open loop(richer) except for the cruising rpm.
AFR somewhere around 13.5 to 13.8 at idle and low rpm low MAP. Lambda at .920 to .940

This is the best advice, i agree that. It is possible that the pistons destroyed on high heat. AFR 14.6 is too lean.
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