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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2015, 10:41:04 AM »

CVO isn't a requirement to be a member of this forum.  We've got a few members that don't have CVOs and a couple that don't have Harleys.  I didn't have a motorcycle at all for a couple years.....still here. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2015, 02:41:41 PM »

Yep, you tried to leave in a 5th wheel and that didn't work  :huepfenlol2:. Anyway I'm happy that  you can ride again without all the pain. Besides now you have a trailer as well so you can haul all her ----extra, I mean important stuff and (shopping treasures) :coolblue:
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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2015, 07:32:28 PM »

Interesting discussion, I guess I'm not the only one feeling like this bike is really heavy (Ultra Limited CVO).

I ride with my wife loaded, mostly.  It's a very heavy arrangement.  If I tip the bike in a parking lot, we have to recruit a young man to help her her upright.  Usually this is done without any damage or scratch to the bike because it happens when the bike is stopped.  Usually something stupid, on my part.

The point is once you drop down to 5 mph or less, and you are loaded, you have a problem.  The front wheel is not responsive. It's too heavy and the heavier fairing doesn't help.  The new Harleys have this really cool electronic stuffy that inside the fairing and all that weight is on the front wheel.  So forget about doing something cool under 5 mph when you are rolling in the parking lot. 

Here's what I did. Even with all that weight this bike is very comfortable on long trips. We often cover 600-700 miles per day.  If you are short like me (5' 7" with a 30" inseam), you need to narrow the front of your seat to allow you to get you legs squarely on the pavement next to your bike, if you need to.  I took our heated seat to a fellow in Houston, he narrowed the seat, inserted heavier foam in the middle and then covered the seat with real leather, he said from a Mercedes... well he charged like the leather was from Germany.  The heater still works fine, the leather is much more comfortable than vinyl, particularly in hot or wet weather.

Now if low speed is still an issue.  Get some rear air shocks.  Not the harley shocks, the ones that let you change air pressure on the fly (while riding).  I purchased mine from Legend in Sturgis.  When I'm going into a parking lot or gas station, I drop the air pressure which lowers the bike just a few inches from the pavement.  At that point you should be able to get you feet squarely not he ground, both sides, while you partner climbs off the back. This really helps parking the bike in tight inclined areas.  I park mine in the corner of the garage with only an inch off the wall.

Now if low speed is still and issue, look at the front end.   Lowering the front end will do two things. First is should give you another half inch.  Second, if you do this right, the handling will improve at low speed.  Legend just came out with some new shocks this month for the Road Glide and Ultra models.  I had to order mine directly from Legend.  The distributors don't stock them, as yet.  These are gas/ oil front shocks!  You can preload the spring according to who much weight you'll carry.  There are two models, one standard length and the other 1 inches lower.  Get the shorter model, I did. What you notice is significantly improved handling in the front of the back.  You'll notice the difference almost immediately.  these are not like the Harley springs.  These are fancy cartridges that you insert into the front tubes.  No more bouncing up and down at low speed!!  No more nose dive in quick stops!.. usually followed by some head banging with your passenger.  This significantly improves handling at all speeds, but it's even comforting at low speed.

Now if you still have a problem, I'd consider one of the new trikes!!  I figure I'll need one in a few years. They carry stuff, they don't tip over in a parking lot and they have a reverse gear!  For now I'll stay with the Ultra (CVO Limited), but I expect to own a trike one of these years, I just turned 69.

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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2015, 11:39:13 PM »

You went from a bike with a tourpak to one without, lost a radio amp, speakers and some nice options, options that most of us would add anyway if we bought a basic bike and most of all a less powerful engine.
I am not sure what the weight diff between the two Road Glides are, but it is not much. Seems a strange trade to me, from one loaded with options to a basic one for a couple pounds is not something I would do, but if you are happy...
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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2015, 08:16:52 PM »

You went from a bike with a tourpak to one without, lost a radio amp, speakers and some nice options, options that most of us would add anyway if we bought a basic bike and most of all a less powerful engine.
I am not sure what the weight diff between the two Road Glides are, but it is not much. Seems a strange trade to me, from one loaded with options to a basic one for a couple pounds is not something I would do, but if you are happy...

I have the 15 CVO Road Glide Ultra, my wife has a 15 Road Glide Special.  Her bike feels a lot lighter than mine for many reasons.  One it is lighter, no lowers up front, no radiators, no amps, no tour pack no rear floor boards, no rear bag guards, no heated grips, lighter seat.  The suspension in the rear is an inch lower.  The seat is much thiner and narrower at the nose.  This puts the body weight two inches lower into the bike, and puts feet more firmly on the ground.  So basically you have moved a good deal of weight down 3 inches, and removed up high weight of tour pack. The shocks are firmer and better in the rear, so the bike feels more secure in curves and turns and bumps. 

First words out of my wife mouth is how heavy my bike is and how she is not comfortable on it.  That said, she has 29,800 miles on her 13 month old 15 Road Glide Special.  She rides it hard enough to drag the floor boards and I know many guys who can't keep up with her in the curves.  She is uncomfortable on my bike.

So I complete understand why Ron feels better on his new bike.
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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2015, 09:33:33 PM »

Well good on you for making the call. The only thing that matters is that you have the bike YOU like and feel comfortable with. Also pleased to hear that the dealer is doing the right thing. I was put off by the weight of the bigger touring framed CVO's which is why I went down the Road King route. Best of both worlds in my view. Bottom line is you now have the bike you want, I hope it exceeds your expectatiuons as you get to know it.
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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2015, 07:37:01 AM »

Well good on you for making the call. The only thing that matters is that you have the bike YOU like and feel comfortable with. Also pleased to hear that the dealer is doing the right thing. I was put off by the weight of the bigger touring framed CVO's which is why I went down the Road King route. Best of both worlds in my view. Bottom line is you now have the bike you want, I hope it exceeds your expectatiuons as you get to know it.

Just to be clear,  (weight) of a Road King is less,  but it shares the same frame with the rest of the tour models. :P
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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2015, 09:57:58 AM »

I have the 15 CVO Road Glide Ultra, my wife has a 15 Road Glide Special.  Her bike feels a lot lighter than mine for many reasons.  One it is lighter, no lowers up front, no radiators, no amps, no tour pack no rear floor boards, no rear bag guards, no heated grips, lighter seat.  The suspension in the rear is an inch lower.  The seat is much thiner and narrower at the nose.  This puts the body weight two inches lower into the bike, and puts feet more firmly on the ground.  So basically you have moved a good deal of weight down 3 inches, and removed up high weight of tour pack. The shocks are firmer and better in the rear, so the bike feels more secure in curves and turns and bumps. 

First words out of my wife mouth is how heavy my bike is and how she is not comfortable on it.  That said, she has 29,800 miles on her 13 month old 15 Road Glide Special.  She rides it hard enough to drag the floor boards and I know many guys who can't keep up with her in the curves.  She is uncomfortable on my bike.

So I complete understand why Ron feels better on his new bike.
I just had a chance to get back on here and all the points you made I totally agree with. Yes I gave up some niceties, ect. but confidence was the most important factor in my final decision making. Benn riding on and off for years from an earlier post I made so I'm no rookie, and always learning new things, but as a previous owner of an 02 owner of the Yamaha Venture, an 03 Ultra, and a 13 Ultra RG, I knew the CVO Ultra felt a lot heavier than the other touring bikes. The  RG Special appears to fit the bill of both worlds, light, nimble plus a good ride to boot. Put over 200 miles on it in just a week locally and I feel absolutely comfy and in control with this bike and the handling is really no different than the CVO , but I do know the weight is no longer there. I put the quick disconnect passenger backrest on so if I need to go on a few day trip I can just put my T bag over the backrest and set it on the seat instead of the tourpack weight. Do I miss the storage, absolutely. This bike works for me.  ;D
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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2015, 06:29:56 PM »

Short is like 5'6" with 27-28" inseam. Don't ask me how I know ::)
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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2015, 01:06:07 PM »

This is a great post; now I understand why I'm so much more comfortable on my 2012 SESG then my friends new CVORG. I can tell the difference when I take my quick detach tour-pak on and off (adds weight up high).  I'm 68 years old and only 5' 7"; my bike fits me perfect but my friends doesn't. If I do decide later to get an ultra I'll probably test ride one of the new lowered ones to see how it fits, if not, I'll just stick to the CVO line of street glides.
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Re: No longer CVO owner
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2015, 05:25:57 PM »

Heck, I wish I could ride the RG ultra, I can ride the Ultra classic, rode one for years, but not the RG...just to top heavy it seems and my feet aren't flat on the ground  >:(
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