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Is it just me, or is everyone noticing the "crash" on CVO values????
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2016, 02:20:38 PM »

Any pre 180 rear tire bike took a hit. Now anything nor Rushmore is. As for building a standard model into an SE cheaper- not really. Rims paint and 110 push it there heated seats and chrome push it past value.  But then look at your resale on that build!  I put 35 k into a Streetglide build once and lucky to get 17 for it few years and 40k miles later. New one was close to 20 then do who is going to pay more?
SE touring models used to rotate also. Now the top SE has been a limited or what ever model the top regular touring model has been for years. Plus another model be it Streetglide or road King. So many more.
Have to agree the company's job is only to make money. So we will see more until it is too many to sell, oh that is already happening. With discounts on last years models when new ones are released. Bought my 2010 in September 2010 with the 11's out. 1500 off sticker
Bought my 2014 cvo in February 2015 as a left over. 4 k off sticker.
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Re: Is it just me, or is everyone noticing the "crash" on CVO values????
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2016, 02:25:04 PM »

The real point is this: Successful marketing is achieved by any one or more of the following:

1) selling a product that is of better quality than the competition, (state of the art)
2) Selling a product that has controlled supply
3) Selling a product at a lower price, if the end result is you generate significantly more "dead net" dollars than at the higher price.
4) Having impeccable customer service
5) Making your product so unique, that you have a very niche market.

IMO

They have certainly missed points 1 & 4 by a wide margin.

Point 5 -- I really seems they are just rehashing old paint jobs for quite awhile now.

And as it is all about the money. They jumped from point 2 to 3 without the price drop and only a drop in point 1 & 4 to make more profit.

It would be nice to see them raise points 1 & 4 and go back to point 2.  I just don't see it happening.

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Re: Is it just me, or is everyone noticing the "crash" on CVO values????
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2016, 03:54:21 PM »

I don't know what all the ruckus is, my 2009 FLTRSE3 has increased in value.  :pineapple:  Not that I'm interested in selling but........make me an offer that I can't refuse.  :D


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Re: Is it just me, or is everyone noticing the "crash" on CVO values????
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2016, 03:59:14 PM »

Bottom line you can't get anymore than a buyer is willing to pay... get what you can or keep it. Mine (even w/the little riding I do) is worth more to me than it is/would be to anyone else. I'll keep it and give it to my grandson when he gets old enough if I (will) feel like I want to give it away (because not feeling I'm getting enough for it) then I will give it to him.

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Re: Is it just me, or is everyone noticing the "crash" on CVO values????
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2016, 06:50:05 PM »

Toys are toys.  Gotta pay to play.
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Re: Is it just me, or is everyone noticing the "crash" on CVO values????
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2016, 08:30:21 PM »

Isn't that the truth, "pay to play". I just hate to see something as iconic as Harley Davidson, take the low road. It used to be such a prestige symbol to ride a Harley, even when you had to put something under them to keep them from oil staining the pavement.
Going back to the points I brought up from a business point of view;

1) selling a product that is of better quality than the competition, (state of the art)
They have instead, tried to keep the dealers profitable by allowing them to sell other brands on the same salesfloor.

2) Selling a product that has controlled supply
We have all already agreed they have gone down the road of saturation sales.

3) Selling a product at a lower price, if the end result is you generate significantly more "dead net" dollars than at the higher price.
They haven't kept the prices down, but instead have opted for long term financing, which has backfired, causing them to have hold over inventory

4) Having impeccable customer service
We all wish this could be true, but surveys have shown a drop in customer service the past 5 years. (Remember the old days when some "crusty, old biker type" would come out of the back and ask you if you wanted a "new ride"?)

5) Making your product so unique, that you have a very niche market.
Unfortunately starting with Buell, you see all different brands on the floor, BMW, KTM, Yamaha, etc. A local dealer said, "it is easy to sell, the higher quality BMW's with the price jump on Harley. They had lost the police business, but got it back when they brought in the BMW line. Harley has become the follower,.....there was a time when other manufactures wanted to have Harley clones as close as they could. While it still exists a little in most lines, other companies are forging their own path successfully.

The break down is that Harley cannot continue to compete on an international level using the tactics they currently endorse.
 
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