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[JoeVibe]

That was what I was thinking. I don't plan on replacing the headers as of now (warranty) but will be in the future. I have installed the street cannons and also have a power vision tuner that I plan on installing when the headers go on. I imagine the power would be in the 120HP and 128TQ range all said and done.

That's right where my Ultra is and it's a very fun ride.

[SDCVO]

$1600.00 for a cam/springs and THREE cubic inches?

Big difference in ride-ability between the 114 and 117. Going from the 114 to the 117 didn't just seem like 3 cubic inches to my "butt dyno"..

[FLSTFI Dave]

$1600.00 for a cam/springs and THREE cubic inches?

Cam, Cylinders, Pistons, springs, pushrods.  Yes its for 3 cubic inches, the cam will provide a good power gain, and I have rode a 107 with the cam and its a big gain.  So with inches added it will be a bigger gain.

Seeing a bone stock 114 is 111 torque and 91 HP, just removing the ventilator air cleaner give 3 hp and 4 torque, which makes it 94 hp and 115 torque.  So with a better cam for torque and the more cubic inches I think 112 HP and 122 torque is easily achieved with the kit.  Maybe more.

[Panhead_Jimmy]

How many hours labor for dealership to install the 117 kit?

[Trapperdog]

How many hours labor for dealership to install the 117 kit?

Now Jimmy, you should know better than to use the "d" word here 

[JoeVibe]

Big difference in ride-ability between the 114 and 117. Going from the 114 to the 117 didn't just seem like 3 cubic inches to my "butt dyno"..

Harley curve shows the big difference. above 110 TQ from 3k to about 5.2K with the 117 kit.

just removing the ventilator air cleaner give 3 hp and 4 torque, which makes it 94 hp and 115 torque. 

Hey Dave,

What did you replace the ventilator with? Heavy Breather?

[SDCVO]

How many hours labor for dealership to install the 117 kit?

They charged me 10 hours

[FLSTFI Dave]

Hey Dave,

What did you replace the ventilator with? Heavy Breather?

This was from testing done by Jim at Illinois HD.  This was done on an M8.  Steve at Fullsac has proved this with the old ventilator on the twin cams.  Steve states the heavy breather produces the same or more power than no air cleaner.

Here is a post with the video,  http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=109141.msg1408988#msg1408988

I do think I will be replacing the ventilator with the heavy breather on my 17.

[nsnorgrass]

This was from testing done by Jim at Illinois HD.  This was done on an M8.  Steve at Fullsac has proved this with the old ventilator on the twin cams.  Steve states the heavy breather produces the same or more power than no air cleaner.

Here is a post with the video,  http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=109141.msg1408988#msg1408988

I do think I will be replacing the ventilator with the heavy breather on my 17.

Interesting! I wonder why power would improve with a heavy breather compared to no air cleaner at all?