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[RivRaptor]

True Unbalanced!  Although I have not experienced these issues first hand ( Compensator & lifter) being new to Harley I have read plenty about peoples frustrations.  I'm trying to be positive cause I love my bike.  But if history is any indicator it my be awhile.....

[Heatwave]

Hello Gents,

     Just a little update... The MOCO decided to void my powertrain warranty leaving me and my dealership stuck with the sumping issues and repairs. My warranty was voided because while the dealer was replacing the "upgraded" oil pump a TTS Mastertuner was installed. The regional tech never even showed.

My dealership went through my entire engine, found heat damage, and did a rebuild. At the time, this scooter had 800 miles on it... Sumping since day one.

At the same time MOCO eventually sent the new cam plate. Good news is... It does help. It DID NOT fix my sumping issues completely.

I live in central Florida and took my scooter on an Iron Butt Run. I left here and rode up to "The Dragon". I did 1175 miles that trip. It sumped minorly in comparison to how it used to. I would just stop and let it idle (standing straight up)until it was back to normal.

When I came back I took it to the shop again. Still believing it is a crank case pressure problem, they starting investing the venting. Where the breather lines come up to the back of the air cleaner... They noticed that the bolts used for venting (holding the air cleaner on with holes through them) were not providing adequate flow. They drilled them out. More like the size on the old 110s. This combined with running a little less oil has helped as well.

It still gives symptoms of sumping if I run it really hard, but everything that has been done has helped. At it's worst now... It may have a 15% to 20% loss in power for a very short time and corrects itself while riding.

Since I now own my powertrain (Thanks MOCO) I plan to do a 124 kit and the S&S pump setup soon.

Wow... not sure what else to say. The sumping madness continues.....

[1Riseaboveit]

To those of you with an actual interest in my update... That's why I posted. I don't spend much time on this forum because of the negativity and criticism that people can't help themselves to post. If I told you the entire story from day one... Every conversation with everyone involved... Some of you may understand more. Some of you would still be assholes.

I'll be glad to answer PMs or calls, but I won't spend much time on this forum.

[ultrarider123]

To those of you with an actual interest in my update... That's why I posted. I don't spend much time on this forum because of the negativity and criticism that people can't help themselves to post. If I told you the entire story from day one... Every conversation with everyone involved... Some of you may understand more. Some of you would still be azzholes.

I'll be glad to answer PMs or calls, but I won't spend much time on this forum.

Glad we were of service 

I looked back over this thread (the only one where you've posted in CVO Harley) and from the responses, I didn't note any comments that would direct you toward the south end of the north bound donkey comment.  Actually, the posts seemed helpful and you posted thanks at least once. 

You get out of something whatever you put in it.  It actually is a very good forum.  Show me a blog/forum/discussion group that DOESN'T have it's share of negativity and I'll show you....well, I don't have a rebuttal for that as I don't think you can show me one.

Good luck going forward with the current repairs and any future modifications including that 124...

[ultrafxr]

Glad we were of service 

I looked back over this thread (the only one where you've posted in CVO Harley) and from the responses, I didn't note any comments that would direct you toward the south end of the north bound donkey comment.  Actually, the posts seemed helpful and you posted thanks at least once. 

You get out of something whatever you put in it.  It actually is a very good forum.  Show me a blog/forum/discussion group that DOESN'T have it's share of negativity and I'll show you....well, I don't have a rebuttal for that as I don't think you can show me one.

Good luck going forward with the current repairs and any future modifications including that 124...

Well said Haird. Can’t please everyone all the time. His loss.


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[FLSTFI Dave]

Well said Haird!  Thanks, I couldn't have said it that well.

[mark]

Well said Haird!  Thanks, I couldn't have said it that well.

I guess some folks come on a forum and are not prepared to accept the truth...they want validation that everything is sunshine and roses.  The MoCo canceled his powertrain warranty, even though his mods had nothing to do with his engine failure/sumping.  I'm not sure how that's anything but a negative - first on the engine design and secondly on a company's position regarding how they treat warranty claims due to a faulty design.  Other than that, everything is sunny and rosy.

[grc]

So, if I understand the gist of this thread, an asshole came on the forum so he could post about his Harley engine failure, then called the folks who responded to his thread negative assholes.  What I take away from this is a positive asshole is OK, but not a negative asshole.  Is that like an inie and an outie in belly buttons?  I'm confused.

Jerry

[Twolanerider]

Just read a PM with a link saying this was a thread for assholes.  And I wasn't here yet.  Very sorry to whomever might be the OP and any other assholes who might have been left hanging.

[1Riseaboveit]

Glad we were of service 

I looked back over this thread (the only one where you've posted in CVO Harley) and from the responses, I didn't note any comments that would direct you toward the south end of the north bound donkey comment.  Actually, the posts seemed helpful and you posted thanks at least once. 

You get out of something whatever you put in it.  It actually is a very good forum.  Show me a blog/forum/discussion group that DOESN'T have it's share of negativity and I'll show you....well, I don't have a rebuttal for that as I don't think you can show me one.

Good luck going forward with the current repairs and any future modifications including that 124...

I wasn't referring to anyone on this thread specifically. Maybe I should have clarified. Between Facebook Groups,  This forum, and other forms I have been involved in... It just seems to be a trend. You are right. You get out of it what you put into it. I started sharing my experience with others because I hope to save some people the headaches me and my family have been put through.

I'm no expert. I have like many others learned the hard way a very expensive lesson about my new scooter, M8s, Sumping, Warranties issues, and the MOCO.

[FlaHeatWave]

Just read a PM with a link saying this was a thread for assholes.  And I wasn't here yet.  Very sorry to whomever might be the OP and any other assholes who might have been left hanging.

Better late than never...