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[hdblackice2007]

i got roadking with 30000 miles tell me what will go wrong with this motor b4 warranty expires in oct 2013 i bought it in 2007 new

[dartman]

My 07 CVO Ultra self destructed at 27,000 mi , Supposedly the valve guides hung up and took out the cam and bottom end, It had been clattering so badly it was painful to ride, but the dealer wouldn,t do a tear down, it was still under warranty so I traded it in on an 09 SERG this is a letter I found in my old  files pertaining to the 07 and 08 CVOS

February 17, 2009
Harley Davidson - Screamin'' Eagle
Engine Defect Investigation

 
The national consumer law firm of Lieff Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein, LLP, is currently investigating consumer complaints regarding Harley-Davidson Screamin'' Eagle motorcycle engines. Screamin'' Eagle motorcycles are a line of high-end Harley-Davidson bikes, which typically cost upwards of $30,000.
 
Description of the Alleged Defect in H-D Screamin'' Eagles
 The current investigation concerns an alleged defect referred to as the CVO, Screamin'' Eagle *or* 110" defect (CVO 110 cubic inch engine). Consumers have experienced problems with their Screamin'' Eagle bikes that include:
 
oil leaks at rear cylinder (most of the oil leaks seem to appear by the first 5,000 miles)
rear cylinder head gasket failure
burning oil
engine stalls, and
overheating engines.
Screamin'' Eagle Model Years Under Investigation
 This alleged defect appears to affect at least 2007 and 2008 Screamin'' Eagle models, but may affect earlier models as well. The new 2009 model appears to have an improved design.
 
The affected models include:
 
2007 - FLHRSE3 Screamin'' Eagle Road King
 2007 - FLHTCUSE2 Screamin'' Eagle Ultra Classic Electra Glide
 2007 - FXDSE Screamin'' Eagle Dyna
 2007 - FXSTSSE Screamin'' Eagle Softail Spring
 2008 - FLHRSE4 Screamin'' Eagle Road Glide
 2008 - FLHTCUSE3 Screamin'' Eagle Ultra Classic Electra Glide
 2008 - FXDSE2 Screamin'' Eagle Dyna
 2008 - FXSTSSE2 Screamin'' Eagle Softail Spring
 
Harley-Davidson Screamin'' Eagle Recall Letter
 On August 13, 2008, Harley-Davidson sent a recall letter to owners of 2007 & 2008 Screamin'' Eagle motorcycle owners. The recall, referred to as Product Program 0906, promises to "upgrade" the top end gaskets, center crankcase bolt, and the Automatic Compressor Release of certain 2007 and 2008 models built before May 14, 2008. However, based upon the alleged CVO defect, the solution the company is providing is inadequate to solve the inherent problem with the affected models of the Screamin'' Eagles.
 
Consumer Legal Rights
 State and federal consumer protection laws provide consumers with remedies for products that do not perform as advertised *or* that were defectively designed *or* manufactured, even after the warranty period has expired. In many consumer protection cases, the cost of prosecuting individual lawsuits for each consumer is prohibitive.
 
The law, however, does not leave the consumer powerless. Individual consumers may band together in a class action lawsuit, thereby representing all consumers who purchased the allegedly defective product. Thus, a class action can provide an effective means for consumers to force a corporation to acknowledge its legal responsibilities and provide monetary relief to all members of the class.
 
Submit Your Complaint About Harley-Davidson Screamin'' Eagle Motorcycle Engine Defects
 We are interested in learning of any alleged defects *or* other problems you have had with your Harley- Davidson Screamin'' Eagle. Please inform us of your experiences with these allegedly defective Harleys. We will review your claim without charge *or* any obligation on your part.
my files pertaining to the 07 and 08 CVOS

[Trapperdog]

They sent us new heads and a purdy book for our troubles

[grc]

i got roadking with 30000 miles tell me what will go wrong with this motor b4 warranty expires in oct 2013 i bought it in 2007 new

After six years and 30k miles (and I assume no major failures?), it would appear you got one that didn't have the total POS crankshaft many had.  If you had the "upgrade program" done by H-D, maybe your heads and ACR's are OK and you don't have head gasket problems.  But another area that has never been addressed by H-D until 2013 is the elevated failure rates of the inner cam bearings and the lifter rollers.  At 30k I think I'd be looking at those if they are still stock.  I doubt the ESP will be of any help unless there is an actual failure, they don't normally pay for what if's or maybe's.

Jerry

[zoom]

Jerry are you running down harley, putting people out of work?  Jerry

[grc]

Jerry are you running down harley, putting people out of work?  Jerry

Nope, Harley did that all by themselves with no help from me. 

Jerry

[sadunbar]

After six years and 30k miles (and I assume no major failures?), it would appear you got one that didn't have the total POS crankshaft many had.  If you had the "upgrade program" done by H-D, maybe your heads and ACR's are OK and you don't have head gasket problems.  But another area that has never been addressed by H-D until 2013 is the elevated failure rates of the inner cam bearings and the lifter rollers.  At 30k I think I'd be looking at those if they are still stock.  I doubt the ESP will be of any help unless there is an actual failure, they don't normally pay for what if's or maybe's.

Jerry

Jerry is being kind.  He didn't even mention the compensator attached to the motor....   

[North Georgia Hawg]

... But another area that has never been addressed by H-D until 2013 is the elevated failure rates of the inner cam bearings and the lifter rollers.

Jerry

Which is why I put in Torrington full-complement cam bearings ($20) and Black Ops lifters ($200) -  along with different cams - at less than 300 miles. One of the CRAP INA cam bearings came APART upon removal, and needles went everywhere! Not in the engine tho... the bearing removal tool held it together until it was removed from the tool.

I still can't believe Mother Harley continued use those P.O.S. caged INA cam bearings for so many years...

[Trapperdog]

Jerry is being kind.  He didn't even mention the compensator attached to the motor....   

Which one? The OEM, the first upgrade, second upgrade, etc.  I seem to go through one every 20K 

[sadunbar]

Which one? The OEM, the first upgrade, second upgrade, etc.  I seem to go through one every 20K 

Every 20K?  I think you're doing better than the curve!   

[Justice]

So, my 2007 FXDSE started stalling at low RPM's (slowing to a stop, shifting down from 2nd to neutral or first) yesterday on a long hot ride. I haven't had any issues prior to this, and I have 15K on the bike.
Tonight, it started hard and ran choppy and then stalled at a red light and again at another light, and again waiting to turn left across traffic and again pulling into my apartment area and again waiting for the gate to open....
and then it wouldn't stay running trying to get into the gate, and then stalled again pulling into the garage...
GOOD TIMES!!!
It coughs/wheezes as it stalls, and one time yesterday it sounded like it misfired when it stalled.
Any good ideas?

[Justice]

"Nothing" was wrong with my bike. The Dealer couldn't duplicate my problems. The plugs and wires look great. There is no exhaust or intake leak. They couldn't make it stall out on numerous test rides.
I got the bike back yesterday, and it hasn't stalled for me either. I don't know if I got a bad tank of gas or what...

I don't have the race tuner that was used to tune my bike originally, because it wasn't traded in with the bike. I did get the dyno sheets from the dealer that sold it new and tuned it after the Thunderheader and Air
Kit were installed. It's tuned at 14:1, which seems just a little too lean for this motor.
I think my next step will be to buy a new tuner, and have it mapped at 13.2:1 and then to get a Dynatek coil and 8mm wires and install Iridium plugs.

[donald.e]

Yip, my 2007 - FLHRSE3 Screamin'' Eagle Road King has started to clatter from the from front Pot, its seems to be more obvious at idle and when on the Gas but quietens when coming off the Gas, any ideas ?  
Have had the usual rear POT  problem and now this