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RJ749

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Re: Dealer Invoice
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2008, 09:42:22 AM »

Auto industry invoices and margins have changed over the years.

Many cars no longer have the traditional 15% mark up.  Manufacturers have taken to the tact of forcing dealers to meet many standards imposed by the mfr, including training for all staff down to lot porters and receptionists, quality of advertising, how many lease returns they buy back at the end of leases etc.

Unfortunately the Harley business is becoming more and more like the car business in the sales department.  Too many bikes force dealers to sell at lower prices, narrow margins and carry higher inventory.  None of this leads to better profit margin.

While many dealers have done very well in the past many are not doing so well now or in recent years.  Multiple dealerships have changed hands in Washington State, including the factory added a large dealership two years ago in this area.  That didn't help dealer profit either.

Currently there is a dealership for sale near me.  This "stealer" has not turned a profit for four years.  Hard to imagine with the chatter we see all the time, but reality.  A good dealer too, friendly, fair prices etc.

Whoever takes over this looser will be viewed as the typical "stealer" because they will raise the labor rate and be tough negotiators in the sales department.  Imagine, they actually need to make money to stay in business.

Anyway, if it was easy, we'd all be doing it, as they say.

I hope my dealer is there when I need a part or service near by.  It would be a pisser to have to wait days for the mail or UPS or drive 120 miles for a needed part so I could make a bike trip if my bike was down.

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Re: Dealer Invoice
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2008, 09:43:16 AM »

My dealer even still thinks by taping his name over the MSRP on the brochure we won't find that. :huepfenlol2:

I figure if you're going to use the dealer invoice as a negotiation tool, you might as well just lay the cards on the table. Life is too short for me to waste my time with a dishonest dealership. There are plenty of really good people at this site that would make a great place to put out feelers to find a new/used CVO.

Not to mention, you could always borrow my Super Secret Agent X-ray Spyglasses to read the MSRP under that tape! ;D
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Re: Dealer Invoice
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2008, 07:38:35 PM »

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"Thus endeth the lesson" as often quoted by our illustrious El Hubbard-O  :bananarock:
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Re: Dealer Invoice
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2008, 11:02:27 AM »

Yeah, I was going to say, when you find a HD dealer that will negotiate from dealer invoice on a current CVO, especially on an Ultra, please pass it on! From what I'm seeing, few will let them go for list, if you can even find them. I think if you can get a couple of bucks off list, and perhaps a reasonable allowance for maintenance and/or accessories, and a discount on a warranty or something, you'd be doing pretty good.

Good luck.
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