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Front End Twist...
« on: March 21, 2008, 01:07:49 PM »

Okay, let me see if I can explain this simply.

The handle bars are all still as factory set.  They seem good, but if you're going down the road and pay attention to the placement of the grips, you'll notice that the right side is back towards you a bit more than the lift grip.  The nacelle is a bit a skew as well.

The bike goes straight down the road with no adverse pull one way or the other, just that the handlebars are not square.

I'm thinking that the triple tree clamps could be loosened up and then it all twisted or pulled back around to "square" the bars with the front wheel.  Then just retighten the clamps and move on with life.

Has anyone else had this happen or seen this issue before?

I've mentioned it to the service adviser so I'll see what happens after the service tomorrow.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2008, 01:09:51 PM »

mine was the same way, when i swapped the bars i spent extra time trying to "align" them
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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2008, 01:14:34 PM »

They're mounted in rubber riser mounts. Try giving them a good yank in the direction they need to be moved. The rubber's fairly soft and you might be able to square them off just by doing that. ;)

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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2008, 01:50:42 PM »

Okay, let me see if I can explain this simply.

The handle bars are all still as factory set.  They seem good, but if you're going down the road and pay attention to the placement of the grips, you'll notice that the right side is back towards you a bit more than the lift grip.  The nacelle is a bit a skew as well.

The bike goes straight down the road with no adverse pull one way or the other, just that the handlebars are not square.

I'm thinking that the triple tree clamps could be loosened up and then it all twisted or pulled back around to "square" the bars with the front wheel.  Then just retighten the clamps and move on with life.

Has anyone else had this happen or seen this issue before?

I've mentioned it to the service adviser so I'll see what happens after the service tomorrow.

Thanks in advance.



Yes, I had this problem too. It wasn't always like that. I fixed it with a set of WO575's.

I think I have identified what caused the problem tho.




I think this had something to do with it. :nixweiss:






Ahhhhh, the god old days. ;D

Sorry I can't be of more help on this one. Either the bars are bent or they're not square in the triples.

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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2008, 02:01:30 PM »

Aren't you guys supposed to be working or something???  How can you be reading the threads and getting work done???

I on the other hand, am just screwing off when I should be working.

Chief... OUCH.

Back to the thread... Can't the top and bottom trees be slightly a skew?  I remember in the way old days when I was riding the little bikes, 50cc's etc, that I could put my legs on each side of the front wheel and just twist the forks back to straight.

I'll take a look at the handlebar mounting points to see what gives there, but with both the handlebars and the nacelle slightly twisted, I'm thinking trees etc.

I'll let you all know when I dig deeper.

I'm sitting at my desk listening to an oldies song and the dancing GIF's are jigging in time with the song.  Okay I've got to get back to work, or at least make it look that way.

Thanks again guys for the input.
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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2008, 02:10:43 PM »

as hoist said the bars are rubber isolated, so they can be loosened and re-torqued as for the nacelle the 4 holes that mount it to the trees are not exactley snug to the bolts.. and the alignment on the mounting holes for the steering lock could be slightly skewed. each of these tolerances alone isnt bad but when you stack them all up..............
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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2008, 02:34:45 PM »

Aren't you guys supposed to be working or something???  How can you be reading the threads and getting work done???

I on the other hand, am just screwing off when I should be working.

Chief... OUCH.

Back to the thread... Can't the top and bottom trees be slightly a skew?  I remember in the way old days when I was riding the little bikes, 50cc's etc, that I could put my legs on each side of the front wheel and just twist the forks back to straight.

I'll take a look at the handlebar mounting points to see what gives there, but with both the handlebars and the nacelle slightly twisted, I'm thinking trees etc.

I'll let you all know when I dig deeper.

I'm sitting at my desk listening to an oldies song and the dancing GIF's are jigging in time with the song.  Okay I've got to get back to work, or at least make it look that way.

Thanks again guys for the input.

The difference in the triples and the Schwinn is the fork tubes that cross through both the upper and lower triples that keeps them rigid. It's pretty tight and don't think can be the source of your misalignment.

Let us know.  :vrolijk_11:

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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2008, 02:50:47 PM »

I received some good advise from a guy at a shop about this only after breaking a set is risers.   

When installing or trying to align handlebars;

1-Lube the rubber bushings that go between the triple tree and the risers with WD-40 both inside and out.
2-Tighten each side a little bit at a time from the start of the tread to the point you hit torque spec.  This is time consuming but worth it.

Following these two things lined my bars up perfectly.

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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2008, 02:56:54 PM »

 :jack: sorry


Chief, I like this one best.  It's like the bike is trying to be sneaky and peek around the corner.
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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2008, 03:00:16 PM »

Sounds like great information from everyone.

I'll start with letting the dealership take a look.  If they can't help me out, I'll do it myself.  I tend to get annoyed by little things like this and they need to be fixed.  You wouldn't guess that from my office or home desk, but mechanical things need to be right or I get irritated to no end.

Thanks again.

If anyone else wants to chime in, be my guest, let's have it.

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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2008, 03:19:53 PM »

My 2004 RKC drive me nuts because the bars were crooked.  My buddy lossed the two riser bolts from below and we straightened out the bars and retightened, just like Howie said.

As for the spotlight, I bought a cheap deep socket 9/16ths ot 5/8 from Homey and cut a slot with a dremel tool so that the wires do not get in the way and I can tighten the spotlight. 

Were there any injuries?
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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2008, 04:59:38 PM »

:jack: sorry


Chief, I like this one best.  It's like the bike is trying to be sneaky and peek around the corner.

Not quite as sophisticated as Lexus' adaptive headlights, but the same idea. :)

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Re: Front End Twist...
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2008, 05:02:57 PM »


As for the spotlight, I bought a cheap deep socket 9/16ths ot 5/8 from Homey and cut a slot with a dremel tool so that the wires do not get in the way and I can tighten the spotlight. 

Were there any injuries?

I replaced the spotlight because it was scratched up pretty well. I've got both a cut socket and a bastardized deep offset box wrench I use to adjust the spotlights. The offset box wrench works the best since it gets under the wire and doesn't touch it. The problem with the socket is the contact it makes with the wire. If you turn too far it bends the wire more than I'm comfortable with.
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