Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Keithincda]

Well after the post I made on Sunday with my bike on a trailer behind the tow truck (which AAA covered at no cost for 125+ miles when my HOG membership wouldn't) we did narrow thing down to a loose compensator nut. Short story....after fixing that and getting everything back together (plus a 20k service job), went to do a test ride and basically had no clutch (thank goodness for kill switch!)..after checking/topping off master cylinder and bleeding system, still nothing. Bled system two more times and still no clutch...help?

[vagabond6542]

Well after the post I made on Sunday with my bike on a trailer behind the tow truck (which AAA covered at no cost for 125+ miles when my HOG membership wouldn't) we did narrow thing down to a loose compensator nut. Short story....after fixing that and getting everything back together (plus a 20k service job), went to do a test ride and basically had no clutch (thank goodness for kill switch!)..after checking/topping off master cylinder and bleeding system, still nothing. Bled system two more times and still no clutch...help?

Question: How did you bleed the system? Did you start at the clutch connections at the engine? Was there any air bubbles? If there is any air between the master and slave unit, it doesn't matter how much fluid is present. The air is taking up the pressure and damping it before moving the clutch. You may be moving the clutch a little but not enough to disengage.
Just my .02 cents.

[Talon]

Kinda weird at after fixing the compensator nut you have no clutch, not sure how air would get into your clutch system. Might also take off the derby cover and check the clutch adjustment per the manual, I go about 5/8 of a turn.

[DavidB]

Well after the post I made on Sunday with my bike on a trailer behind the tow truck (which AAA covered at no cost for 125+ miles when my HOG membership wouldn't) we did narrow thing down to a loose compensator nut. Short story....after fixing that and getting everything back together (plus a 20k service job), went to do a test ride and basically had no clutch (thank goodness for kill switch!)..after checking/topping off master cylinder and bleeding system, still nothing. Bled system two more times and still no clutch...help?

Did you take the clutch basket off for any reason . If so someone could have squeezed the clutch pushing the piston into the transmission.

[grc]

There is no clutch adjustment under the derby cover on the hydraulic units; the pushrod is one piece non-adjustable.

I'm assuming the clutch was operating properly prior to the compensator nut coming loose?  Did you remove the clutch while doing the compensator repair?  If you did, most likely something didn't go back together properly.  If you want to verify the hydraulic portion of the system, remove the derby cover and measure the travel of the pushrod while operating the lever.  The minimum travel specification is .065" (1.65mm).

Jerry

[Boatman]

I'm with GRC..  If working before, tightening the compensator nut shouldn't effect the clutch operation.  And there is no adjustment.  Please tell us more about the tightening and what you did in the 20K service.

[Talon]

Really, so there's no adjustment on the hydraulic units at all?? Still think it's something they did while working on the compensator. Hope you don't have to remove the exhaust and trap door! Have you talked to the shop you took it to? Might need to load it on a trailer and take it to them, since they did the work.

[Diesel Dragon]

If you had no clutch how did you get into first gear to start riding ?

[Keithincda]

1st I plead personal ignorance  as I am not a "mechanic" but my
brother-in-law is    
Actually after draining the fluid and removing the cover..the nut was loose, real loose but still on the threads, the shim and begun to show considerable wear, a few teeth on the housing were showing wear but the shaft was okay.
So we got a new housing, replaced the shim, got everything within the tolerances per the manual and put it back together. Then when we got done draining the rest of the fluids and replacing the filter plus the other 20k checks, we started it to test ride and that's when we had very little (basically none) clutch.
We bled off the fitting on the cover, leveled the bike and topped of the master (DOT4) pumped and bled a couple of times and still the same....by then we both had to call it a day and we'll hit it again after work today....

[Keithincda]

 Posted by: Diesel Dragon
Insert Quote
If you had no clutch how did you get into first gear to start riding ?
Posted on: Today at 09:36:02 AM
Posted by: Talon

Well, enough to get it into gear at idle, release led to "lurch" forward; engaged clutch and barely had have enough to stop so hit kill switch...