I don't know about anybody else, but I had to pay 3 large over list to get my '06 watermelon bike. I think Harley may have hit on the right system for the '07s with the type of cam drive system used in the Dynas for '06. Also, finally the 6 speed tranny and the new 110" motor. The only place they screwed up was continuing to use the smaller leather tourpack. (I like the color matched ones much better). I'm sure the '06 Ultras have taken quite a hit in trade-in value, so paying over MSRP was a huge mistake. [smiley=oops.gif] I'd be interested to know what difference people are paying to trade up to the new bike. [smiley=confused5.gif]-Steve