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[evenson82]

 Hi all,
   I just brought my 09 springer in for the first service. At delivery i had a sert and vance and hines 2 into 1 put on. When i picked it up they said they couldn't get a really good tune on it, since it wasn't broke in yet. It was at 88hp/113tq. I was wondering if anyone could give me a good guess on what the hp/tq should be. At the end of summer i am going to get some engine work done, until then i want the best numbers i can with what i have. Just wondering if it is worth the time and money to get it back on a dyno or if that is the numbers i should expect. Thanks all for your time and help.

                                                                                                                                Evenson

[LarryB]

go ahead and complete what they call the break in and take it back, pronto.

[Gecko]

There's more to a tune than just the peak numbers.  A baseline will get you part-way, but I would find out (from others, not their service manager) if anyone at the shop knows what they are doing with the software.  If so it is worth getting it tuned later.  If not, find someone who does know what they are doing.

[grc]

Hi all,
   I just brought my 09 springer in for the first service. At delivery i had a sert and vance and hines 2 into 1 put on. When i picked it up they said they couldn't get a really good tune on it, since it wasn't broke in yet. It was at 88hp/113tq. I was wondering if anyone could give me a good guess on what the hp/tq should be. At the end of summer i am going to get some engine work done, until then i want the best numbers i can with what i have. Just wondering if it is worth the time and money to get it back on a dyno or if that is the numbers i should expect. Thanks all for your time and help.

                                                                                                                                Evenson

Dyno chart numbers plus $5 will get you a cup of overpriced coffee at Starbucks.  Don't obsess over peak numbers, since they can and will vary from one dyno to the next, from one dyno operator to the next, and from one day to the next.  Based on what I've seen, the numbers you reported are pretty decent for a basically stock CVO110 with only a pipe change.  More important than those numbers is how does the bike run?  Does it hesitate, stall, lurch, or have any other driveability concerns?  What, if anything, was done to richen the mixture in closed loop mode to cool the engine?  Do you have exhaust popping on shifts or decel?  These are the types of things that would indicate a need to get a better tune, not the peak numbers on a chart.

BTW, Harley claims 80 hp and 95 lb-ft for a totally stock 110.  Check out their charts in the SE catalog for the 110 Stage 1 kit.

Jerry

[brewnut56]

More important than those numbers is how does the bike run?  Do you have exhaust popping on shifts or decel?  These are the types of things that would indicate a need to get a better tune, not the peak numbers on a chart.

Jerry

I have an '09 SEUC w/Stage 1 A/C, Vance & Hines Dresser Duals, Rinehart Slip-on's, and the SE Pro Super Tuner w/ a canned map from the software CD (no tune yet, only 750 miles).  I was not happy with the sound (too Loud) or performance, and I did have exhaust popping on shift and decel.

I contacted Steve at Fullsac Performance and had him modify my stock head pipe and went with his 2" CVO cores in the stock mufflers.  Great improvement! Sound and Performance improved, and exhaust popping is gone.  I found the Vance & Hines head pipe bolts loose (finger tight, dealer installed) when I switched back to the Fullsac set-up, so maybe this caused the popping??

Do you think I can expect further improvement by dyno tuning, after I get some miles on the bike, or am I wasting my $$?

[Smuuth]

I have an '09 SEUC w/Stage 1 A/C, Vance & Hines Dresser Duals, Rinehart Slip-on's, and the SE Pro Super Tuner w/ a canned map from the software CD (no tune yet, only 750 miles).  I was not happy with the sound (too Loud) or performance, and I did have exhaust popping on shift and decel.

I contacted Steve at Fullsac Performance and had him modify my stock head pipe and went with his 2" CVO cores in the stock mufflers.  Great improvement! Sound and Performance improved, and exhaust popping is gone.  I found the Vance & Hines head pipe bolts loose (finger tight, dealer installed) when I switched back to the Fullsac set-up, so maybe this caused the popping??

Do you think I can expect further improvement by dyno tuning, after I get some miles on the bike, or am I wasting my $$?

Actually exhaust popping on deceleration is a sign of being too lean.  Exhaust leaks with O2 sensor bikes will usually cause it to run too rich.  (The O2 sensor reads the O2 in the air coming IN to the exhaust pipe between exhaust valve opening strokes and adjusts the ECM to run richer.)