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Ironhorse

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Throttle By Wire Issue isolated
« on: July 06, 2009, 06:57:44 PM »

For you folks with FBW bikes, here is a cut and pasted post from Harley Tech Talk. The issue is VERY similar to the broken speedo wires inside the harness issue many others including me have experienced.

Hello everyone,

Bike is a 2008 Ultra Classic, 61k miles.
 
Last Wednesday I was pulling into my parking space at work, I had to back in where I normally pull a small U turn, when I turned my bars all the way to the right and then back to center my throttle blipped.  Thinking that that was a strange thing I rolled the bars back to the right then returned to center and the throttle blipped again.  Nothing major but it was  noticeable that something was wrong.

The next day I was at the dealer to replace a tire, I showed the service manager the problem by moving the bars from right back to center.  The throttle blipped again, and he acknowledged that something was wrong.  After the tire was replaced they started moving the bars back and forth and got the throttle to blip several times, but they said because they didn't install the heated grips that it was something they would have to charge me to check.

Being cheap and after talking to the mechanic I figured that it was probably a wiring problem and took the bike home to check.  He was thinking that where the wires come out of the handle bars under the fairing was where the problem might be.

I got the bike home and removed the fairing and radio to allow easier access to wires, and everything in the fairing looked good, nothing frayed no cuts.  So started wiggling wires from the steering head and the throttle revved up again.  I couldn't get it to happen again, so I removed all the wire plugs and pulled all the wiring in the fairing that comes from the right side of the frame and removed the wiring clamp to allow room to get at the harness.  I found everything looked good.  So thinking the problem was in the wires going into the main harness on the right side I cut and opened the sheath for the drive by wire harness.  Once I had that harness opened I took each wire one at a time and started to pull on each wire.  Again everything was fine.  So I ran all the wires back into the fairing and plugged everything back together and started the bike.

With the wires all loose and open I started wiggling again, this time the throttle went full wide open and stayed there, I had to reach up and turn off the bike.  Now I knew something was very wrong, I loosened all the connectors in the fairing and pulled the wires back out and pushed the main harness sheath back as far as I could.

I found tie wrap right under the main harness where all the wires came together.  I cut the tie wrap, isolated the throttle wires and pulled on each one again.  This time though, I found 2 wires broken inside the insulation.  I spliced them back together and soldered them and put some heat shrink tube on each one.  I put all the wires back into the fairing and started the bike, it ran fine.

Took it on a long ride Friday and everything seemed fine.

Just wanted this to be a heads up for everyone with the drive by wire.  The wires were broken right where the tie wrap was, the tie wrap pinched them and then with the little bit of movement everytime the bars are moved full travel was enough to break them over time.

Ride safe,

Frank
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Re: Throttle By Wire Issue isolated
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2009, 09:35:31 PM »

I had a break in the exact location on my 03 Ultra that caused the tach to quit working, same exact symptoms as your TBW.
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Re: Throttle By Wire Issue isolated
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2009, 10:33:47 AM »

I had a break in the exact location on my 03 Ultra that caused the tach to quit working, same exact symptoms as your TBW.

After YEARS of this same kind of problem, (speedo, tach etc) you would think that HD would start using better wires. A speedo or tach that acts up is a nuisance. A bike that goes Wide Open Throttle without warning is deadly.
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