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dak47

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CompuFire Regulator vs Jagg Oil Cooler
« on: March 22, 2011, 12:11:19 AM »

I'm so close to making noise in the shop, ready to turn it(without fuel) this afternoon till I ran into this snag. .The 3 phase regulator sits too far forward to mount the oil cooler where it was on the Jagg bracket. My first thought was the down tubes but I'm going to run vented lowers. I can flip cooler to the bottom but that requires longer lines and a extra 90* bend???? or extend the bracket so it clears the reg but then the cooler blocks a pretty good chunk of airflow from the reg  :rifle: I'm going to bypass the cooler with a longer chunk of hose tommorow.....

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Re: CompuFire Regulator vs Jagg Oil Cooler
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2011, 08:53:31 AM »

Could you spin the regulator bracket 180?
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Re: CompuFire Regulator vs Jagg Oil Cooler
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2011, 08:58:18 AM »

Put a couple washers (i used a the thicker style that came with my quick release bracket kit) under the regulator and don't tighten regulator nuts down until after installing the oil cooler, snug down the oil cooler then voltage regulator.... Worked for me  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: CompuFire Regulator vs Jagg Oil Cooler
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2011, 10:57:53 AM »

Here are some pic's of my 6 Row Jag on the downtube.  I did it this way on both my 06Se & my Wifes 09 Ultra

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Re: CompuFire Regulator vs Jagg Oil Cooler
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2011, 10:59:00 AM »

The advantage of the down tube is better cooling, no road heat.
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Re: CompuFire Regulator vs Jagg Oil Cooler
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2011, 10:59:40 AM »

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Re: CompuFire Regulator vs Jagg Oil Cooler
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 02:55:10 PM »

I'm so close to making noise in the shop, ready to turn it(without fuel) this afternoon till I ran into this snag. .The 3 phase regulator sits too far forward to mount the oil cooler where it was on the Jagg bracket. My first thought was the down tubes but I'm going to run vented lowers. I can flip cooler to the bottom but that requires longer lines and a extra 90* bend???? or extend the bracket so it clears the reg but then the cooler blocks a pretty good chunk of airflow from the reg  :rifle: I'm going to bypass the cooler with a longer chunk of hose tommorow.....

Cheers,
Dirk

Just curious why you went with the 3 phase regulator rather then a Harley model?
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Re: CompuFire Regulator vs Jagg Oil Cooler
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2011, 11:02:13 PM »

i have my cooler and the filter mounted on the right crash bar in front of the lower - its not the best looking - but - zero oil change mess [put a pan under the crash bar, screw off filter, screw on new - remove pan - it works really well.]



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Re: CompuFire Regulator vs Jagg Oil Cooler
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2011, 12:24:31 AM »

Just curious why you went with the 3 phase regulator rather then a Harley model?

ok,, here goes.. Today there are no issue’s in the new bikes because Harley upgrade the charging systems on 2006 and latter bikes. But bikes prior to 2006 lacked decent charging systems particularly when the system was loaded up, mostly in the touring bike line. The popular fix and still is for the 2006 prior bikes is a 3 phase 40-amp system which operates on a principle of three-phase wiring, as opposed to the stock charging system, which operate on a single-phase theory. The 3-phase system provides more current to be available at lower rpm. Stock systems prior to 2006 were unable to supply enough electrical power at or below 1,500-1,800 rpm causing problems when the bike idles or runs at low rpm for long periods of time such as sitting in traffic. And then when the six speeds came alone guys discovered their charging systems sucked when they hit 65 MPH in overdrive which dropped their RPM’s down in range of 1,800-2300 RPM, again causing inadequate charging for the battery. The 40-amp three-phase charging system is designed to provide 25 amps at idle and 40 amps continuously above 2,800 rpm.
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Re: CompuFire Regulator vs Jagg Oil Cooler
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2011, 09:14:44 AM »

ok,, here goes.. Today there are no issue’s in the new bikes because Harley upgrade the charging systems on 2006 and latter bikes. But bikes prior to 2006 lacked decent charging systems particularly when the system was loaded up, mostly in the touring bike line. The popular fix and still is for the 2006 prior bikes is a 3 phase 40-amp system which operates on a principle of three-phase wiring, as opposed to the stock charging system, which operate on a single-phase theory. The 3-phase system provides more current to be available at lower rpm. Stock systems prior to 2006 were unable to supply enough electrical power at or below 1,500-1,800 rpm causing problems when the bike idles or runs at low rpm for long periods of time such as sitting in traffic. And then when the six speeds came alone guys discovered their charging systems sucked when they hit 65 MPH in overdrive which dropped their RPM’s down in range of 1,800-2300 RPM, again causing inadequate charging for the battery. The 40-amp three-phase charging system is designed to provide 25 amps at idle and 40 amps continuously above 2,800 rpm.

What Cvobiker said! Plus the vented rotor seemed like a good idea and the spacer has a large flange on it that seems like a good thought too, you can see it if you look close in the photo... Looks like I lost the clamp load on my previous comp nut and took all the teeth off the original rotor, can't believe it still charged.

Thanks for the oil cooler configs, it's nice to get different insights when your only looking at it one way....

Dirk

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