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[porkypig]

I had heard from reading somewhere that the unveiling of 2013 bikes would be later than normal next year which would push the window closed on riding 2013 models at Sturgis next year.  Seemed as though the article was saying that Harley was attempting to slow down production for model years, thereby bringing the value on used bikes up as new models would not be so readily available as has been the case for the last few years.  I remember late in 2004 having to be put on a waiting list just to get a non-cvo bike when it arrived.  if you didn't buy it, someone was there with cash in hand.  maybe this is a return to those days.  If it means longer in production so they can produce an absolutely superior product, I would understand it and be all for it.  Unfortunately Harley has a reputation of problems they will probably be a long time changing as people just like to Pound Harley.......just cause it gets a reaction out of us.  Personally, I believe in the product and wish I had signed on many years ago.  Yay for American made products that keep all the money right here in the states and our own people employed.  if that means I have to wait til April, then I'll wait until April.  Sorry, overseas brothers and sisters, you may have to wait til July.......but you'll get a great product  Pork.

[Ozoneman]

Just bought a 2012 Crimson Red Sunglo Convertible today for my wife.  They had it for about 4 months on the showroom floor, so they were willing to deal with me on it, more than when they first got it.  She has been wanting one for 2 years.  But the windshield issue kept us from buying.  Today in 38 degrees she road her Deluxe to the dealership to see what we would get on trade.  They gave us what we wanted on trade and met us about half way on the other stuff we wanted which wasn't bad considering I was asking a lot.

They let her take if for a test ride because we wanted to see if the windshield was still a problem.  I told her to take it out on the Interstate and get it up to 70 to see how it would feel.  Riding at 75 she noticed more wind than she feels on the Deluxe with a tall windshield.  But she didn't mind the wind and said she can deal with it.  She liked the idea of being to see over the windshield though, instead of always looking through it.  Needless to say she is pretty happy about the bike.