Trade values are all based on the current market conditions, the ancient rule of 'supply & demand'. I am a GM of a BMW/MINI dealership, I have a little background on this subject but cars are a bit different than bikes because bikes are seasonal and more vulnerable to economics because they are a pure discretionary spend. This being said, one of the threads stated that a BMW or Honda Dealership will throw a wholesale number on your bike and likely sell it for a profit to a dealer. Not necessarily true. Yes, they will get a buy figure from a dealer, depending on the location and market, they may give it a couple of weeks at their store before they wholesale it off. If someone wants to trade a Harley or a bike in on a car, that's typically what I will do. The problem is the HD dealer giving the wholesale number. They are going to back it off and try and steal the bike from the dealer, one because their not seeing the bike for themselves, two their not selling a bike so try and steal it and let that dealer make up for it from the profit on their bike. If your thinking of trading your bike in on anything but a HD, take it to the HD dealer, sell it yourself to them and go with cash in hand.