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[skratch]

That's one of the issues with this company.  They don't like competition.  Not that they're willing to meet it and compete.  They try to eliminate it rather than compete with it. 

Somehow they patented the use of machine tools.  They patented "diamond cutting."  So what a guy could do with a Dremel with some practice and time is hounded by the company's lawyers if anyone dares advertise they could do it too.  When I found out about this, compounded with the crappy customer service, is when I decided I was never spending another dime there.

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there was a guy who had been doing this for years, mymachinist.com, when they came along with their cease and desist orders and the stress of all the legal battles about killed the guy.  there work wasn't as good, nor as cheap, but they somehow conned, er... convinced a judge to issue a patent to this process under the guise of 'extra cooling'.  healthy competition is good, but this cutthroat stuff, not so much.......  no money from me.

[Twolanerider]

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there was a guy who had been doing this for years, mymachinist.com, when they came along with their cease and desist orders and the stress of all the legal battles about killed the guy.  there work wasn't as good, nor as cheap, but they somehow conned, er... convinced a judge to issue a patent to this process under the guise of 'extra cooling'.  healthy competition is good, but this cutthroat stuff, not so much.......  no money from me.

It is, at least to this layman's understanding, a gross abuse of the patent system.  It's a machining process.  Even with the poor excuse for cooling it's a gross abuse.

It's akin to the idea that someone watched artists put brush to canvas then patented the process of using a brush to put paints on canvas as a process wherein the life of the canvas was improved.  It is, to use different words, chicken chit.  Some might even some unAmerican and cowardly.  Not me though.  I'd stick with chicken chit.

[Skillet]

Amen to that.

[skratch]

i agree wholeheartedly.

[dlaws01]

You're kidding right?  The company actually said that crack when asked about their delivery time?

No, they didn't say that. I was just kidding.  That just one of the sayings we have in the hangar when working on aircraft.

[spydglide]

It is, at least to this layman's understanding, a gross abuse of the patent system.  It's a machining process.  Even with the poor excuse for cooling it's a gross abuse.

It's akin to the idea that someone watched artists put brush to canvas then patented the process of using a brush to put paints on canvas as a process wherein the life of the canvas was improved.  It is, to use different words, chicken chit.  Some might even some unAmerican and cowardly.  Not me though.  I'd stick with chicken chit.

And to me, anyway, it's akin to the MoCo patent of the terms: knucklehead, pan-head, shovelhead, etc, etc.  since they 'adopted' these terms that were invented & popularized by the customers/riders and not any employees.  They have spent more on lawyers & protection of trademarks than attempts at actually improving the products.  JMHO.  spyder