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Robmay

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Stock MAP for 2007?
« on: October 24, 2006, 11:23:37 AM »

Okay heres a question for all of you know it alls out there ;):

Lets say I have a SERT and I install MAP 84 in my CUSE2. I decide that I do not like the true duals and air filter change and just want to return to stock, how can I do that? I have not been able to locate the base or stock MAP or profile within my SERT program of eighty something MAPs.

Any idea?
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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 11:33:14 AM »

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Okay heres a question for all of you know it alls out there ;):

Lets say I have a SERT and I install MAP 84 in my CUSE2. I decide that I do not like the true duals and air filter change and just want to return to stock, how can I do that? I have not been able to locate the base or stock MAP or profile within my SERT program of eighty something MAPs.

Any idea?
Rob,

Your dealer can reinstall the stock map using Digital Technician.  As far as I can tell, there is no way you can do it yourself.

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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 12:01:21 PM »

Rob, Jerry is correct.  You cannot retreive the stock map from your ECM before you change it with the SERT.  The SERT can write only - it cannot read what is in your ECM (the Power Commander can, however).

Only way to get the stock base map back is to pay your dealer for a flash with Digital Technician.
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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 12:01:30 PM »

Thanks Rob for asking this ??? as I have the same ???s
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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 03:50:21 PM »

I understand. However... if I can write a new MAP by adjusting the one(s) that are in the SERT and then save them, isn't that reading them?

Is this just a MOCO thing to keep you from going back to stock for warranty issues? Is this why once you have installed a SERT there is always record of it? Just wondering what I paid almost $500.00 for.

Also, can a flash digital tecnician be purchased??
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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 04:56:28 PM »

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I understand. However... if I can write a new MAP by adjusting the one(s) that are in the SERT and then save them, isn't that reading them?

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You can only save them from the computer you are creating them from, not from the ECM.

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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 09:56:57 PM »

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I understand. However... if I can write a new MAP by adjusting the one(s) that are in the SERT and then save them, isn't that reading them?

Is this just a MOCO thing to keep you from going back to stock for warranty issues? Is this why once you have installed a SERT there is always record of it? Just wondering what I paid almost $500.00 for.

Also, [highlight]can a flash digital tecnician be purchased[/highlight]??
Rob,

Digital Technician is a proprietary H-D computer system which is only available to franchised dealers.  Even if you could get your hands on the software, there is a secure log-in required to access the site.

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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2006, 11:52:33 PM »

You paid for a SERT because you wanted 'true-duals'.  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2006, 07:37:01 AM »

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You paid for a SERT because you wanted 'true-duals'.  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]


 [smiley=nixweiss.gif] Not sure what you mean.
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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2006, 08:23:22 AM »

Changing out the mufflers and maybe using a real high flow air filter, will allow more flow in and out which Leans out and already lean EPA setup.  Too lean will over heat the engine and eventually cause damage.
Putting on the rhineharts more than likely would require some changes to the ECU maps to richen the fuel delivery.  A SERT is one option as is the Power Commander or Dobeck Techlusion (which I chose) any any one of other aftermarket options.  Previously, you would pay the dealer to do the Stage 1 update from a cartridge at a set fee, this has changed.  A SERT is required which is more $$$$.
The SERT allows the download of factory available maps for simple changes such as filter and exhaust, but also allows a second mode where a map is custom made using a dyno to see where fuel is in excess or a lean spot.  The SERT has some cons such as high price, you have to shut off the bike each time you send a map change, and that you cannot see what map is currently in the ECU.  The Power Commander is cheaper, loads on the fly and allows you to see the map you have and make changes.  I opted for the Dobeck because it is simpler to tweak if you only need to adjust for smaller modifications and don't want to go the Dyno route.  On my previous bike, I had a PC and it worked well, I just had some issues with Dyno tuning and driveability vs. peak performance.  I am only looking for sound and driveability.  I do not need to  know what HP is being made.  Certainly 110 in motor is making 80+ HP from the factory and that is plenty for me. I'll monitor the plugs and ride and then leave it alone.  My 2 cents worth.  Hope this helps.  [smiley=nervous.gif]
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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2006, 09:19:47 AM »

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Okay heres a question for all of you know it alls out there ;):

Lets say I have a SERT and I install MAP 84 in my CUSE2. I decide that I do not like the true duals and air filter change and just want to return to stock, how can I do that? I have not been able to locate the base or stock MAP or profile within my SERT program of eighty something MAPs.

Any idea?

I restored the stock map last year.  There is no charge to the dealer in downloading the stock map.  Whether they charge labor is up to them.
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Re: Stock MAP for 2007?
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2006, 09:22:53 AM »

Skrem,

I agree 100%, you cannot change the air in and out without changing the fuel ratio. The mufflers ALONE may be changed without any other modification.
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