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Re: primary fluid capacitys
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2014, 05:07:39 PM »


Ask GMR on this site about the Bandit clutch, they've indicated they install a lot of them.  They can also talk to you about the Compensaver device.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=3628

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Re: primary fluid capacitys
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2014, 05:14:59 PM »

Ask GMR on this site about the Bandit clutch, they've indicated they install a lot of them.  They can also talk to you about the Compensaver device.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=3628

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X2  :2vrolijk_21: GMR is putting a Bandit clutch and Compensaver in my bike along with some other goodies right now. I hope to be picking it up real soon (maybe this week).
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Re: primary fluid capacitys
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2014, 05:44:10 PM »

Look into the Compensaver!  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: primary fluid capacitys
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2014, 07:12:35 PM »

I used to try to measure the exact amounts when I changed the primary fluid, and the levels were never the same.  Just do as others have recommended; fill to the base of the clutch ring.  At least it's consistent.

Speaking of metal in the primary, this picture is from the primary drain plug on my '12 SG.  The general consensus is "this is normal", but I can't imagine all that metal flying around in the primary is normal, or good for the moving parts.

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Re: primary fluid capacitys
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2014, 07:22:27 PM »

I used to try to measure the exact amounts when I changed the primary fluid, and the levels were never the same.  Just do as others have recommended; fill to the base of the clutch ring.  At least it's consistent.

Speaking of metal in the primary, this picture is from the primary drain plug on my '12 SG.  The general consensus is "this is normal", but I can't imagine all that metal flying around in the primary is normal, or good for the moving parts.

I always get a good laugh when Harley shops try to tell folks something is "normal".  There are a ton of things on a Harley that are "normal", as in it happens a lot, but that doesn't mean those things are acceptable or that they meet industry standards.  What that really means is that they see that same thing a lot, they have no clue how to fix it, and even if they did have a clue they don't plan to spend the money to fix it.

All you have to do is look at the pictures of all the compensators people have posted and you will see exactly where all that metal is coming from.  Harley can spew BS all they want, but all that severe wear is far from acceptable.  But it is normal, as long as you understand normal just means it's a very common problem that they don't plan to address.

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Re: primary fluid capacitys
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2014, 07:29:14 PM »

 :'( !!

I used to try to measure the exact amounts when I changed the primary fluid, and the levels were never the same.  Just do as others have recommended; fill to the base of the clutch ring.  At least it's consistent.

Speaking of metal in the primary, this picture is from the primary drain plug on my '12 SG.  The general consensus is "this is normal", but I can't imagine all that metal flying around in the primary is normal, or good for the moving parts.
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Re: primary fluid capacitys
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2014, 08:45:04 PM »

Yeah, I kind of messed that one up; should have also mentioned the higher capacity specs for the later models.  I would be unhappy with a dealership that said they just automatically dump in 32 ounces in a 2007 and later bike, but that is in fact a good amount for the 2006 and earlier bikes. 

The best method is still to fill to the bottom edge of the clutch spring regardless.  As for the dealers blowing smoke up a customer's butt about the amount required, with nothing in writing to back them up, that stopped surprising me within the first couple years of buying my first Harley.  BS seems to be the official language at the typical Harley operation.  And if I read that OP correctly, even H-D wouldn't give him a straight answer?  That is really sad when the folks who make the product can't answer a simple question like fluid capacity.  If Harley had officially changed the capacity, it should be reflected in the current model owner manuals and shop manuals.  I don't remember anyone saying it had changed from the 38/45 that was listed in 2007. :nixweiss:

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