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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2015, 12:40:40 PM »

Hi all:

I went on a trip out to MS this last weekend and experienced this same issue - intermittently.  Apparently, my memory is not as bad as I thought, because I remembered this thread.

Unfortunately, I see there was no resolution.  I did learn the "roll-on" method here, but I will forego the anchor.

I am hear to tell you though, the first time you learn that the front brake is not going to cancel the cruise, you are pretty quickly looking for an alternative!

Anyway, I am taking my bike in for a tire so I will have them look at the issue and post back here with any 411.

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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2015, 01:40:54 PM »

Just saw this thread and had to report that I had the same happen to me over the weekend! Tried it again yesterday and it worked as intended. I hate to take it to the dealership and receive the same "could not replicate" response but think that this is a very serious issue!!! While there might be many ways of disengaging it, you might easily end up in a situation with no time to think about it. I fear that HD will wait for some accidents to happen before they issue yet another recall...
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2015, 01:44:37 PM »

Try tapping the rear brake instead and see what happens.  Or maybe the electrons in the rear brake circuit are just as slow as the ones in the front brake circuit (but only occasionally)? ;)

I'd love for someone who has this problem to run a little test to see if the brake lights also have the same issue, ie. slow to respond to pedal or lever movement, or require excessive pressure before they respond.  Probably need a big mirror or a dark garage.

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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2015, 08:56:53 PM »

...I've always personally preferred tapping the front brake, but to each their own.  At least you have multiple choices for disengagement, from turning off the switch, using either brake, rolling the throttle back, or pulling the clutch lever.  If all of those fail, throw out the optional H-D brand anchor and hold on.

Jerry

Ha!  I thought maybe Jerry's "...throw out the anchor..." comment was referring to the "BoB"!
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2015, 05:33:56 PM »

Allcon:

In an update, it turns out that my front brake switch is faulty.  Apparently, I was getting no brake light which is connected to the cruise via ECM.  The warranty is going to replace the switch assembly, which according to the tech, is "pricey.  They have to replace the entire switch module on the right side.  According to Ronnie's HD $231.

Now, that there is some engineering Mother Harley.

So there you go.  If your front brake is failing to disengage the cruise, check your brake lights, too.

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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2015, 05:44:58 PM »

Have you had someone watch to see if the brake light is illuminating all the time when the front lever is being pulled?
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2015, 08:48:04 PM »

Have you had someone watch to see if the brake light is illuminating all the time when the front lever is being pulled?


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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2015, 03:51:32 AM »

Allcon:

In an update, it turns out that my front brake switch is faulty.  Apparently, I was getting no brake light which is connected to the cruise via ECM.  The warranty is going to replace the switch assembly, which according to the tech, is "pricey.  They have to replace the entire switch module on the right side.  According to Ronnie's HD $231.

Now, that there is some engineering Mother Harley.

So there you go.  If your front brake is failing to disengage the cruise, check your brake lights, too.

Mark

Yep been there and got the T shirt. My entire switch module on the right side had to be replaced. The bike was delivered to me new, with a cut off switch that didn't work, had to stall the bike to switch the engine off! Took Harley 6 weeks to get a switch to the UK. Replaced under warranty
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2015, 04:34:48 PM »

Just got back from the dealer as I had the cruise control once again not disengage with the front brake. I did check the brake lights multiple times now and it always worked fine. Anyways, while the bike did not show error codes on the speedo, once we hooked it up to their Diagnosis system sure enough it had logged Code 0572 multiple times over the last 3000miles! It is the Switchpack assemblyr on the right side (Part no: 71500163A) and will need to be replaced under warranty. I am convinced that there are many of us out there riding with this faulty unit without even realizing...
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2015, 02:53:13 PM »

Just got back from the dealer as I had the cruise control once again not disengage with the front brake. I did check the brake lights multiple times now and it always worked fine. Anyways, while the bike did not show error codes on the speedo, once we hooked it up to their Diagnosis system sure enough it had logged Code 0572 multiple times over the last 3000miles! It is the Switchpack assemblyr on the right side (Part no: 71500163A) and will need to be replaced under warranty. I am convinced that there are many of us out there riding with this faulty unit without even realizing...

Thanks for the update man!  I'm taking the bike in for my 20K soon.... so I will show them this thread.  At least I know I'm not crazy and see others are having the same problem!  I genuinely appreciate the feedback!

Ride safe my friends!

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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2015, 08:59:26 PM »

Thanks for the update man!  I'm taking the bike in for my 20K soon.... so I will show them this thread.  At least I know I'm not crazy and see others are having the same problem!  I genuinely appreciate the feedback!

Ride safe my friends!

Your most welcome! Be safe and report back.
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2015, 05:33:14 PM »

Dealer replaced my switch block yesterday.  They had to fiddle with the original one to replicate the problem as it was intermittent.  That was not an issue, because they apparently know about the defect.  The technician commented that the new switch blocks are a different color now.

Sounds like a stealth recall or product program that mother Harley is content with waiting on until customers complain. I think it is a safety issue and there are enough faulty switch blocks our there to warrant a recall.  Just my 2c.

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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2015, 09:26:33 PM »

Dealer replaced my switch block yesterday.  They had to fiddle with the original one to replicate the problem as it was intermittent.  That was not an issue, because they apparently know about the defect.  The technician commented that the new switch blocks are a different color now.

Sounds like a stealth recall or product program that mother Harley is content with waiting on until customers complain. I think it is a safety issue and there are enough faulty switch blocks our there to warrant a recall.  Just my 2c.

M

Agreed 100%! I don't want to imagine what will happen if it happens by surprise at the wrong time, in the wrong place...
I think the suffix "A" was added to the original part number to indicate the new one. If I am not mistaken the part should be around $230 or so. Bike will be going in soon.
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2015, 11:36:46 AM »

Mine is definitely not properly disengaging the cruise control. Just tested it today and it wouldn't cancel the cruise control if you pulled the front brake lever unless you pulled it really hard. A couple of light pulls did nothing other than lightly apply the brakes. Lightly pressing the rear brake cancelled it ok as did pulling the clutch lever. I'm going to get it looked at when its in for its 15k and show them this thread.


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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2018, 08:15:34 AM »

I have had the same issue again. It seems to not turn off the cruise the first time I use it with the front brake. I had time to play with the front brake. It would not turn off the cruise after  four times I then touched the rear brake and it turned off. After that the front brake would turn off cruise on first light tap. Tech could not duplicate on last visit as it only happened once before. Tech said they would replace a module if it happens again. I will be at dealer today to have the part ordered.  Billy
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