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[2BAGGR]

In my opinion, do not get the S&S Standard Adjustable Pushrods.  You have to remove the lifter blocks to put them in or take them out.  And even then, you must finesse them into place.  If you ever want to remove them in the future, again take off the lifter blocks.  Also, the tubes that come with the S&S seem to be narrower at the top inviting tapping from not enough clearance to the P/R.

I recommend the Harley SE Tapered Adjustable pushrods.

As for lifters, my S&S standard lifters gave me no problems.  Also I like the CompCams 850-1's at &17 each.

Which pushrods should you go with?

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

We use nothing but S&S pushrods here, unless the client has a pre-existing set already in the bike.
S&S has been manufacturing pushrods for HD's since the late 1950's.
I believe they have a good grip on that product by now.
Scott

[prodrag1320]

cant argue with S&S products,we also use their lifters & p/rods here

[2BAGGR]

S&S std pushrods? 

[Aussie]

2012 FLHXSE3
S&S premium lifters are $420 a set, bit expensive compared to SE lifters at $320 a set so for peace of mind I decided to Installed the new Screamin Eagle lifters 18572-13 and set them at 2 1/2 turns as per the instructions using the Screamin Eagle High performance quick install adjustable push rods.
At first they were like a jar of marbles until they primed up. Not a lot of difference to stock C lifters however C lifters looked okay at 4500klms with now signs of wear.
Would more than 2 1/2 turns make any difference or cause any damage?

[r0de_runr]

2012 FLHXSE3
S&S premium lifters are $420 a set, bit expensive compared to SE lifters at $320 a set so for peace of mind I decided to Installed the new Screamin Eagle lifters 18572-13 and set them at 2 1/2 turns as per the instructions using the Screamin Eagle High performance quick install adjustable push rods.
At first they were like a jar of marbles until they primed up. Not a lot of difference to stock C lifters however C lifters looked okay at 4500klms with now signs of wear.
Would more than 2 1/2 turns make any difference or cause any damage?

I'm no expert but here is what I believe:  Some aftermarket cams seems to cause the valve train to create more noise.  Some people have had luck using more preload on the pushrods, which changes the PR/Lifter/Rocker geometry slightly.  Many others have found it to be the rocker arms shaft as the source of the increased noise.

S&S tech support told me to set it per the instructions and forget aboudit.

I think next time I will just do what the book says.

Greg

[CircleRacer]

Aussie
Did you pump up the new lifters after you set the pushrod preload or did you just start the engine up with out pumping oil to the new lifters? The lifters should not sound like marbles if you pump them up before you start the engine.

[Aussie]

Out come after replacing lifters with New SE (18572-13).
Replaced rear lifters and took bike for a test ride to see if there was any difference with tappet noise. Not a lot of difference but a slight reduction.
 
Replaced front lifters the following day when engine was dead cold and after a test ride notice a change in lifter noise, cruising speed is a lot quieter now. Just a very slight tick at 1800rpm with light load. (Tick was between 2500-3000rpm before lifter replacement, and was the same from day one).

All lifter rollers on OEM lifters looked and spun okay. Could have got more out of them but was not going to take the risk.
Before starting engine after replacing front lifters I spun the rear wheel a few revolutions to prime them up and on start up they were very quiet.

Has anybody examined the C lifters to the new SE lifters on leak down and if the internals are different?
Would be interested to know if they revised the internals as well as the rollers.

[cvo1717]

Are the lifters in 2013 Cvos better than the older ones? .I have a 2013 Cvos breakout with 10 000 miles on it should I be worried?

[Ridgerunr]

2bagger, get the S&S kit #106-6051, http://www.sscycle.com/go-fast-showcase/motorcycle-engine-components/quickee-pushrods/

Or SE pushrods work good as well.

[r0de_runr]

Are the lifters in 2013 Cvos better than the older ones? .I have a 2013 Cvos breakout with 10 000 miles on it should I be worried?

I don't know if they are different from 2012's, but I'll bet you a dollar they are the least expensive choice the MOCO could make.

No more difficult than it is I recommend you change them out for a known good lifter like S&S.

[brassspike]

I'm also thinking about changing the lifters on mine. It goes through "spells" of noise and, although the motor runs fine, I think that I better go ahead with a change. Although the noise and the pressure don't seem to be related, I have lower oil pressure when there is a lot of heat in the engine. I know the oil is thinner when hot. It doesn't drop to zero or turn the oil light on but it seems like it should be a tad higher to move more oil through the cooler. Could the lifters be bleeding off and aggravating this also?
I am also wondering if I need to change the cam plate and oil pump too? I see that Fueling and S&S advertise that their (expensive) pumps will lessen sumping and carryover to the breather? I'd like to keep plenty of oil through the engine without over pressuring it.

[quicked]

s&s lifters in,problems out

[cvo1717]

Can you put the s s lifters in with stock pushrods or do you have to use adjustable ones?

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

I'm also thinking about changing the lifters on mine. It goes through "spells" of noise and, although the motor runs fine, I think that I better go ahead with a change. Although the noise and the pressure don't seem to be related, I have lower oil pressure when there is a lot of heat in the engine. I know the oil is thinner when hot. It doesn't drop to zero or turn the oil light on but it seems like it should be a tad higher to move more oil through the cooler. Could the lifters be bleeding off and aggravating this also?
I am also wondering if I need to change the cam plate and oil pump too? I see that Fueling and S&S advertise that their (expensive) pumps will lessen sumping and carryover to the breather? I'd like to keep plenty of oil through the engine without over pressuring it.

This may be something else going on. If you get an EX valve guide that is creating this issue , the noise coming and going can be one thing to let you know the "why" once hot the valve is trying to stick in the guide.

As for lifters we use the Delphi version that are lets says just like the S&S , , we have tested them back to back to the S&S  we offer 1 year warranty on them , CVO member discount I think the post in in the vendor section here  100% made in the USA , Our's will allow the use of the S&S travel limiter as well..  Only some many locations to buy lifters from..