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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2015, 04:25:51 PM »

The CCP number is due to the cam.. That program thinks that the numbers you plug in are 100% true. The numbers you have to use are a snap shot of the 255 cam. 210 ccp is a avg number.. the CVO heads will range 93-97 cc chamber volume..

 Again Scott "says"  the 570 is the way to go.. So scott  again lets see some proof as to how this cam works. Going on a year now you keep posting how great it is and how many you have built I would think you have built at least 3+ with that cam so post it up..   Or use a bolt in cam that will make more power than the 570 and never take the heads off,,  that is an option as well but that might be too easy.. ha ha

You came to this thread just to badger and banter and another vile attempt to harrass??
Your malicious PM's that we try to ignore display that also.
Maybe another shop location would find you in greener pastures, and you'd be able to release your fixation on us?
Either way, end it.......
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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2015, 05:36:31 PM »

No fixation at all.  You keep stating this is a go to cam.. We tune in house, You do not.  This cam in the right scenario is good, but it is not a bell ringer or go to cam for the 110 and that is a fact. There are at least 6 other cams that are better suited for a 110 and will make more power across the curve than it will.. I am asking as a forum user and participator to see proof.. You cannot provide it, why is that?? 
 
You post up information that will cost people money ( wasted money) . In the end you have no clue what it really does if you did you would have been able to show several of these dyno sheets.
 
IF you have found a "perfect kit" then lets see the  results.  Simple really..  When you tune approx  200 bikes a year  as we do ,..you have a extremely strong data base to pull from ...  However you show several sheets proving other wise  I will be more than happy to apologize.. for harassing you as you put it..
 
My PM that's funny please post it up..  ;)  I will in turn post your response..
 
I can see how one could get aggravated when someone is asking for proof . But you posted it on an open forum , so back it up, its' simple really.  In today's world of instant up loads of dyno sheets there is zero reason that with all of these you have built. Your words it should be nothing more than a mouse click to upload several of these sheets.. In fact you should be able to prove me wrong at LEAST 10 times over with this cam if its the "go to " as you state repeatedly .
 
And again its not a personal thing , you have the choice to look at the request how you want. And I in turn get to state facts that I can back up .. Not opinion, suggestion, or theory ..  but real hard data that comes from hours of tuning time and the end.
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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2015, 08:12:06 PM »

Not worth the effort........
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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2015, 08:43:24 PM »

 All the bickering and mud slinging among the usual combatants here (and elsewhere on the forums) certainly makes Fuel Moto stand even taller as the logical choice for where I spend my money.....just saying.  :drink:

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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2015, 07:33:58 AM »

All the bickering and mud slinging among the usual combatants here (and elsewhere on the forums) certainly makes Fuel Moto stand even taller as the logical choice for where I spend my money.....just saying.  :drink:

Well I am sorry that you feel this way.  As shops we are not going to always see eye to eye not all shops are on this one forum either  ;)
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But  if I upset you and save money for 1, or 2 or 5 others as they took advice that has data to back it, can show a more positive result with a better cam choice for the application  and you are still upset that is more than OK with me. And I bet if it was your money you would feel the same way..  and Sure have a drink on me  all good here at the end of the day. 



 
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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2015, 08:04:44 AM »

Read it as you want, no mud slinging here, just refusing to be pushed/accosted/disrepected. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2015, 01:10:16 AM »

When installing the cometic .030 head gaskets, does the surface of the head and cylinder need to be surfaced to a specific RA or can you just check true of the surface and install the gaskets?  I know on several car engine builds I've done, when running an MLS gasket the surfaces needed to be prepped to an RA of 50 or less.  Just wanted to check if there's a difference with these engines.
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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2015, 12:54:57 PM »

You can stone finish them and the Cometics seal fine assuming everything is flat of course
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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2015, 02:34:37 AM »

So... are you saying a stock 110 head has app. 9:5 to 1 compression?   And if you replace stock head gasket with a .030 gasket. What would it raise compression to ?
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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2015, 10:06:23 AM »

approx .27-31 tenths of a increase in compression. from a .045-.030
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Re: Compression number with .030 gaskets
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2015, 01:21:24 PM »

2.5 cc's where I'm at........... people have been shot with chit, and hung for stinking, for much less.........
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