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[RedNose44]

I am having the dealer install my new bars on my bike. I don't have the patience anymore to do it myself. I will be going above the fairing and the mechanic is telling me to go with heated grips. When I talked to the service writer he is telling me it is an extra 3 hours of labor. From what I can tell, the throttle side is already wired, and the other side the wires are run through the bars. I am also reading that the connection is under the outer fairing. If this is correct, how does this add three hours if they are doing it at the same time they are doing new internally wired bars?

I have had issues already where the service writers have zero clue what they are talking about. For the guys that had heated grips added, what did they charge you? Thanks...

Edit: I told the service writer that I would be asking on the forums what people were being charged. His response was that people on various forums don't know what they are talking about. I am thinking of going to an independent shop and getting a quote from them as well.

[Joel]

From personal exp. working on my ultra's taking off the outer fairing can be 1/2 hr. taking the inner fairing off is another 45 minutes or so, depending on interruptions.
I think getting quotes from an indy as well as calling a different dealer is a good idea.
When I installed heated grips on a 03 RKC I had, getting the wires to pass through the handle bars took some time, they failed with in a yr, got them warrantied and than after the next 2 sets that had too much epoxy inside them and not allowing the grips to go onto the bar, I went with heated gloves.
Parts manager did say the warranty was 1 yr on customer installed grips and 2 yrs when dealer installed.
Hope this helps.

[JJCruzzz]

i have an 12' CVO Ultra - i just finished having mods done by my local mechanic/tuner... i changed out stock bars to WO578's - and also i wasn't thrilled with the 2012 grips as i felt them to be a little big for me and not much tac/grip so i decided on dropping the cash for the 2016 heated grips - these are killer - fyi

my mechanic originally quoted me 4 - 4 1/2 hours for the handlebar replacement - and when i told him i ordered new heated grips - he said that being everything would be 'un-done' anyway - it will only add an hour at most but maybe just .45 min. 

-three hours... seems like a stretch - too big of a stretch if you ask me

hope this helps.

here is a pic of my bars with the new grips

[grc]

The dealership is trying to overcharge you and you were right to question them.  The fairing needs to come off for the bar replacement, so charging again to do it for the grips is BS.  As you noted, the right side is already wired (the same throttle sensor is used for the bikes with and without heated grips, and the wiring is part of that assembly) so it's just a case of plugging in the wire for the grip.  The rest of the wiring is already in the SESG wiring harness, just like the CVO Limited.  So all they have to do is fish the left grip wires through the new bars at the same time they are fishing the rest of the wiring through the new bars, then make the connections at the existing connector near the steering head area. 

If your dealership won't back off the bogus labor charge, I'd be looking for a different shop to not only handle this particular work, but any future work as well.

Btw, I don't have the labor time standards from Harley for the latest models, but they should be very similar to the 2012 info I do have.  The Harley standard to replace the bars on a heated grip equipped CVO Ultra in 2012 was 2.9 hours.  That's the total, and it includes removing all the necessary parts and reinstalling everything (including those grips) on the new bars.  So if they're charging you 3 hours for the bar replacement that sounds about right, but there shouldn't be another 3 hours for the grips.

Jerry

[Kodas]

Well I just added the CVO heated grips to my CVO Streetglide.  It is already wired on throttle side. Took me another 30 minutes to run the clutch side through.  I had to extend the heated grip wires but that is only 30 minutes of work to solder two wires on each side.  If a lowly forum member can do it an hour a certified technician should be able to at least match that😎

[RedNose44]

Thanks for the replies. Lots of great info. I will be talking with the dealer again and an indy and see what they both quote.

[RedNose44]

Talked to the local indy this morning and he quoted me 4 hours for bars and heated grips. I will talk to the dealership when I get the bars back from powder coat. I don't think they will be close though...

[Gnarl78]

I have a set of Wild 1's on now. Do any of the heated grips fit the 1.25" bars?

[dayne66]

I have a set of Wild 1's on now. Do any of the heated grips fit the 1.25" bars?

I put Heat demons on my Wild 1's...just gotta order the ones for 1.25" bars.

[RedNose44]

I have a set of Wild 1's on now. Do any of the heated grips fit the 1.25" bars?

The bars step down to 1" where the grips and switch housings are installed. I have always run standard grips on my 1.25" bars, and my last bike had 12" Wild 1's. Standard size grips should work unless I am missing something?

BTW, local dealer is now telling me 4 hours for bars and heated grips. I have decided to go with some Performance Machine grips instead. I had hand surgery last year and needed some thinner grips like the PM's. The factory CVO grips (which are the same as the HD heated grips) with the taper hurt my hand because of the increased diameter near the switch housing. It took me a while to figure it out, but I realized my other bikes grip's have a much smaller diameter and they don't cause me any pain.

[Gnarl78]

My handlebars are internally wired. The HD kit says not to be used for internally wired handlebars?

[dayne66]

It's been a few years since I installed the grips.....but, I'm sure there was a difference in the controller/clamp for 1" & 1 1/4" bars...yep just looked at my wife's bike (1") and mine (1 1/4")....I think there has been a design change since my last installation experience.

[dayne66]

My handlebars are internally wired. The HD kit says not to be used for internally wired handlebars?

I think that 'myth' has been debunked.

[Para Bellum]

Edit: I told the service writer that I would be asking on the forums what people were being charged. His response was that people on various forums don't know what they are talking about. I am thinking of going to an independent shop and getting a quote from them as well.

Every dealer says that when challenged.  Sad thing is that people on this forum know more than the dealers.  Need to finesse these issues with them.  I try to let them avoid embarrassment by saying "some of the techs I've talked with say _______," then ask if we can look at the wiring or parts diagram.

[bakon]

I have installed a few sets and each time it was slightly different. Never on a CVO but once on an Ultra that was a real PITA. Wiring was extremely small and fragile connection which required making my own connector with the small wire on the grips to the electronic throttle. Ended up soldering it together as it was such a poor connection. I would never place a time without seeing the grips again.  One kit was easy and next could be a bear.