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[the O`Fender]

What I feel that you may have missed are two things.
I love the CVO's and I am very dissappointed in the way that the MoCo deals with the execution of the bikes and the warranty on their bikes.  Yes, these bikes are the most special and are very very righteous.  That part I do not question.  My rants in these threads have been against the oversites by the MoCo on issues of quality, execution of engineering, and customer satisfaction on warranty issues.

In answer to you other question, about an accident, got rear ended by an uninsured motorist.
http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=;action=usersrecentposts;username=mfgreen  Daily migraines, 10 lb weight lifting limit restriction, numbness in both hands. These problems are ongoing for over 17 months and getting worse.  Thanks for asking.

I think your just posting here because you like to hear yourself type!!! you are speaking out both sides of your mouth at the same time, as my mom always said, you can't have your cake and eat it too!!! but then again I am not sure what the hell "execution of engineering" really is. I have had pretty good success with the product (knock on wood) and will continue using them. You question the quaility, I don't know maybe you got a lemon, but the majority of the people I deal with (I believe that includes a few members of this site) seem to think that the quaility and engineering are quite amazing from the MOCO. So lets simplify this, if you want to wine about warranty issues that's kewl we all have horror stories to share, but if you want to bad mouth harley engineering and quaility you are probably in the wrong place!!! in my 30 years of riding harleys the engineering and quaility are magnitudes better than my first scooter and all I see is a company that continues improve all these issues...
I do not own HD stock, I do not have any family who does (that I know of) and I don't even know any body who works for the company at the corporate level, I just am one of those finatical harley owners who feels very passionate about my scooter so you want to talk about my wife that's one thing but don't say anything bad about my scooter cause thems fighting words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [smiley=sauer024.gif]

[mfgreen]

I think your just posting here because you like to hear yourself type!!! you are speaking out both sides of your mouth at the same time, as my mom always said, you can't have your cake and eat it too!!! but then again I am not sure what the hell "execution of engineering" really is. I have had pretty good success with the product (knock on wood) and will continue using them. You question the quaility, I don't know maybe you got a lemon, but the majority of the people I deal with (I believe that includes a few members of this site) seem to think that the quaility and engineering are quite amazing from the MOCO. So lets simplify this, if you want to wine about warranty issues that's kewl we all have horror stories to share, but if you want to bad mouth harley engineering and quaility you are probably in the wrong place!!! in my 30 years of riding harleys the engineering and quaility are magnitudes better than my first scooter and all I see is a company that continues improve all these issues...
I do not own HD stock, I do not have any family who does (that I know of) and I don't even know any body who works for the company at the corporate level, I just am one of those finatical harley owners who feels very passionate about my scooter so you want to talk about my wife that's one thing but don't say anything bad about my scooter cause thems fighting words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [smiley=sauer024.gif]

Thanks for your reply.  
My issue with engineering is that many times they have been forced to cheapen what they have designed as right by accounting. Examples of this are: in chroming, in painting, in electrical, in guages and in brakes.
The compromise solution that evolves from this has not always been in the best interest of the consumer or the performance of the bike. Ultimately, when coupled with difficulty in attaining satisfaction in a timely manner, this diminishes the ownership experience.
The quality issue that I have raised deals with a problem that seems to exist with the outsourced vendors/manufacturers that are supplying  the MoCo.  I fault H-D for having a cumbersome process for the consumer to endure to get satisfaction.  It seems that the dealerships have a hard time with the claims when a particular bike comes in with repeat claims for the same part.   I am not anti-CVO nor am I anti H-D.  I am against cumbersome business practices that reduce the joy in owning a CVO.

Thanks
Mike

[110tHunDer]

In answer to you other question, about an accident, got rear ended by an uninsured motorist.
http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=;action=usersrecentposts;username=mfgreen

[mfgreen]

WTF, we're supposed to read back through all 500+ posts of yours?

Either way, let's not take the easy way out and blame the tone of your posts on personal problems (accidents, family heath, etc.) or even your experience with H-D.  Your posts seem to have lost all objectivity and you take every opportunity you find to turn threads concerning any problems (and even some that don't talk about problems, like this one) into a personal mission against H-D.  We all have our issues outside of here to deal with, but mostly we come in here to have fun and share information about our bikes, not to have someone tell us they're a POS and the company that built them sucks.  Yeah, sometimes the information sharing includes problems, but when it does, most of us try to stick to the topic at hand and not go off on a tangent.

From Ofender's response, it looks like I am not alone in saying you're free to speak you mind here, just do it in a format and forum that is appropriate.

P.S. And now that you've been so kind as to listen, I will be forever quiet on this subject.

Thank you Brian and Ofender for speaking up.
I apologize to you and the rest of the forum for being unduly harsh with my comments about H-D.  My comments were to air grievances that I have had with H-D in a forum that other owners have also had problems with the MoCo in resolving critical issues.  I have been particularly vitriolic with my commentary because of a seeming lack of concern by H-D to these grievances.  I do have fun riding their product and enjoy this forum.  Thank you all for your contributions to this site.
Mike
 

[Tony - www.1700cc.co.uk]

Passionate stuff, this Harley ridin', what?

[110tHunDer]

I apologize . . . Mike

Mike, I accept your apology! [smiley=beerchug.gif]

And thanks to the Moderators for letting us air this out!

[mfgreen]

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Thank you, I guess there should be enough beer to go around for everybody.

[Twolanerider]

Passionate stuff, this Harley ridin', what?

[Tony - www.1700cc.co.uk]

I still like girls better............. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Carefull, TwoLane. You could get kicked off for suggesting that girls are better than Harleys!

[smiley=thinking2.gif] I will just get this cat and put it amongst these pigeons.

[Twolanerider]

Carefull, TwoLane. You could get kicked off for suggesting that girls are better than Harleys![/size]

Well then, just to protect my heralded position let me both modify and claify.  I like girls on Harleys  [smiley=beerchug.gif] .

[Tony - www.1700cc.co.uk]

Well then, just to protect my heralded position let me both modify and claify.

[Gettinold]

SOMEONE REMIND TO LOOK AT THIS SITE TONY POSTED WHEN I GET HOME [smiley=confused5.gif]  ACCESS DENIED AT WORK [smiley=oops.gif] [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

[Cabo]

humm..this thread has gone sideways! [smiley=oops.gif]

[JCZ]

humm..this thread has gone sideways! [smiley=oops.gif]

[smiley=oops.gif] I think that's a gentle nudge from one of the moderators [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

[Glave]

humm..this thread has gone sideways! [smiley=oops.gif]

But I must admit I like the direction Tony and the "moderators" have taken it! [smiley=7.gif] [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]