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[Heatwave]

Based on this article I'm guessing the SE SuperTuner is toast and that the ecm's on the new bike's will be locked out from tuning. That's going to make it very difficult on the aftermarket guys unless they come up with a way to unlock the ecm. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-sues-harley-davidson-environmental-violations-151041860--finance.html

[NORSEMAN]

Based on this article I'm guessing the SE SuperTuner is toast and that the ecm's on the new bike's will be locked out from tuning. That's going to make it very difficult on the aftermarket guys unless they come up with a way to unlock the ecm. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-sues-harley-davidson-environmental-violations-151041860--finance.html

Where's the "dis-like" button? 

[DCFIREMANN]

Based on this article I'm guessing the SE SuperTuner is toast and that the ecm's on the new bike's will be locked out from tuning. That's going to make it very difficult on the aftermarket guys unless they come up with a way to unlock the ecm. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-sues-harley-davidson-environmental-violations-151041860--finance.html

Harley lists a new turner for the 2017's. As of 145 Eastern Time the part was not obsolete. But I bet it will be on Monday!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[JC]

Think  PC's are next?

[Toofast_28]

Aftermarket will find a way to tune them, I always wondered how the manufacturer got away with selling the tuners, knew they said "race/off-road use only" but seemed like a conflict of interest.

[JC]

Explains the dual plug 4 valve heads on the 17's. Helps keep emissions down.

[CVOStreetglide]

Based on this article I'm guessing the SE SuperTuner is toast and that the ecm's on the new bike's will be locked out from tuning. That's going to make it very difficult on the aftermarket guys unless they come up with a way to unlock the ecm. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-sues-harley-davidson-environmental-violations-151041860--finance.html

Being innovators, they'll go back to totally replacing the Factory ECM's.  That way when you go to the dealer for service, you just swap the custom tuner out for the factory one and everybody will be happy. (Wink, Wink)

[oe542bob]

The ECM is the way certain diesel powered pickups are doing a new tune. You can send yours in to be tuned or, keep your stock ECM and purchase a tuned one. Many guys are going this route and keeping their original. Cost more money,but you have a stock ECM just in case!!!
Might be the new way to tune our bikes in the future. Time will tell!

[DesertHOG]

Aftermarket will find a way to tune them, I always wondered how the manufacturer got away with selling the tuners, knew they said "race/off-road use only" but seemed like a conflict of interest.

They'll come against the aftermarket producers as well. Would not be surprised if they aren't already targeting a few of them.

[Mr D]

Steve Cole ? 

[HD Street Performance]

Have a look at the MOCO document

[HD Street Performance]

here is the rest

[MightyTharg]

Harley lists a new turner for the 2017's. As of 145 Eastern Time the part was not obsolete. But I bet it will be on Monday!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Do you have the part number?  My local dealer can't find it

[FLSTFI Dave]

Looks like its a new tuner according to the MOCO document Don posted.

I'm sure the others will have tuners soon for the 17 bikes.

[DesertHOG]

Looks like its a new tuner according to the MOCO document Don posted.

I'm sure the others will have tuners soon for the 17 bikes.

It will be interesting to see what hurdles they need to clear for the EPA and what the impact is on performance of a "tuned" motorcycle.

DH