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[FLSTFI Dave]

Well not only did they remove the oil pressure so we could not complain about the low oil pressure. 

They also have the M-8 governed to 110 mph.  I guess that is so we can't complain about high speed wobbles.

[ultrarider123]

Well not only did they remove the oil pressure so we could not complain about the low oil pressure. 

They also have the M-8 governed to 110 mph.  I guess that is so we can't complain about high speed wobbles.

Nostalgia, Dave.  That's to always remind you of the SE 110 Twin Cam this one replaced.....    

[DesertHOG]

Well not only did they remove the oil pressure so we could not complain about the low oil pressure. 

They also have the M-8 governed to 110 mph.  I guess that is so we can't complain about high speed wobbles.

WTF!

[MrSurly]

Have to buy the LE model, then.

[grc]

I remember seeing the speed limiter in action on one of the dyno charts posted by Steve Cole.  He did one run in fourth that ran out to the rev limiter, and one run in fifth that was cut off by the speed limiter if I remember correctly.  Contact Steve to see if they've got a way with the TTS to circumvent the speed limiter.

People might be surprised to learn that this is a common thing in the automotive world these days, most likely to help reduce the number of lawsuits they get when people kill themselves running their new car beyond the safe limits for their own capabilities and conditions.

Unless people do some serious performance work on their bikes, I'm guessing a 110 mph limiter isn't really cutting much off the top end anyway. 

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=109309.msg1399734#msg1399734

Jerry

[Chief2505]

I remember seeing the speed limiter in action on one of the dyno charts posted by Steve Cole.  He did one run in fourth that ran out to the rev limiter, and one run in fifth that was cut off by the speed limiter if I remember correctly.  Contact Steve to see if they've got a way with the TTS to circumvent the speed limiter.

People might be surprised to learn that this is a common thing in the automotive world these days, most likely to help reduce the number of lawsuits they get when people kill themselves running their new car beyond the safe limits for their own capabilities and conditions.

Unless people do some serious performance work on their bikes, I'm guessing a 110 mph limiter isn't really cutting much off the top end anyway. 

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=109309.msg1399734#msg1399734

Jerry

Speed limiters on cars are generally attached to the tire rating. My Suburban cuts out at 96 MPH but there is plenty of throttle left. I checked the speed rating of the tires and it matched exactly! Not sure if this applies to motorcycles or not though so I could be all wet with my thinking.

[spook120]

Not sure if many use the full potential of a bike capable of 110 MPH.  My T-man 120 would easily do 130+ but seldom went above 85. On todays roads and traffic it serves nothing but bench race bragging rights to talk about top speeds over 100MPH in MY OPINION. In my home state if you are clocked going 100 MPH or over on a public road it results in an automatic 6 month suspension of your license...no passing goal, no collecting $200...just an automatic suspension.  Not worth it for this kid.  I do understand the resentment of having someone else decide what your bike can or cannot do, but face it that happens in all aspects of life.  Others I am sure have other opinions on this topic and I respect that. 

[Trapperdog]

This has been on several other manufacturers bikes for a couple of decades. At least on other bikes it's been accomplished by having a separate ECM  map for the top gear, retarding the timing at a set speed for that gear. Other bikes aren't as lucky as to have units to reprogram the ECM, so general a TRE (timing retard eliminator) is installed. It just tricks the gear position sensor into thinking it's in a non restricted gear. Mostly irrelevant here but I've been using them for years on other bikes.

[Panhead_Jimmy]

This has been on several other manufacturers bikes for a couple of decades. At least on other bikes it's been accomplished by having a separate ECM  map for the top gear, retarding the timing at a set speed for that gear. Other bikes aren't as lucky as to have units to reprogram the ECM, so general a TRE (timing retard eliminator) is installed. It just tricks the gear position sensor into thinking it's in a non restricted gear. Mostly irrelevant here but I've been using them for years on other bikes.

True.  My ex-GTL1600 would do 140 with three bags attached but it was a linear acceleration up to at least 130...I know this for a fact.  I personally don't care for top speed for a length of time or distance, but I do want to be able to get up to that neighborhood without feeling like a parachute has ejected....at say 100.

[DesertHOG]

True.  My ex-GTL1600 would do 140 with three bags attached but it was a linear acceleration up to at least 130...I know this for a fact.  I personally don't care for top speed for a length of time or distance, but I do want to be able to get up to that neighborhood without feeling like a parachute has ejected....at say 100.

My same experience with the K1600. I got mine up to 142 and it was like surfing. Had to back it off simply for safety's sake. But getting to 120 or 130 was easy pleasey. That last 12 or so was a gradual acceleration. What an experience.

DH

[FLSTFI Dave]

I remember seeing the speed limiter in action on one of the dyno charts posted by Steve Cole.  He did one run in fourth that ran out to the rev limiter, and one run in fifth that was cut off by the speed limiter if I remember correctly.  Contact Steve to see if they've got a way with the TTS to circumvent the speed limiter.

People might be surprised to learn that this is a common thing in the automotive world these days, most likely to help reduce the number of lawsuits they get when people kill themselves running their new car beyond the safe limits for their own capabilities and conditions.

Unless people do some serious performance work on their bikes, I'm guessing a 110 mph limiter isn't really cutting much off the top end anyway. 

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=109309.msg1399734#msg1399734

Jerry

Already posted a question to Steve about in in the TTS section.

In the automotive world the limiter is usually based on the car tire speed rating.  My 14 Stingray has no speed limiter other than the motor power.  Lots of new Stingray owners want GM to offer all season tires, but they will not as it would require a speed limiter.

Not sure how much it cuts off.  This 114 is much stronger than any other stock big twin I have had, infant it is stronger than my last 110 with fullsac head pipe, mufflers and TTS and a good tune.  I know it has to be cutting off more than ten mph, my guess is closer to 15 or more mph.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Not sure if many use the full potential of a bike capable of 110 MPH.  My T-man 120 would easily do 130+ but seldom went above 85. On todays roads and traffic it serves nothing but bench race bragging rights to talk about top speeds over 100MPH in MY OPINION. In my home state if you are clocked going 100 MPH or over on a public road it results in an automatic 6 month suspension of your license...no passing goal, no collecting $200...just an automatic suspension.  Not worth it for this kid.  I do understand the resentment of having someone else decide what your bike can or cannot do, but face it that happens in all aspects of life.  Others I am sure have other opinions on this topic and I respect that.

Ever ride out west?  Speed limit of 85 mph.  Ride 50 miles with out seeing another car.

Yea, my home state 100 I'm sure my license would be gone. 

My 17 is not a week old, found out it has a governor.

My 13 CVO King has 138 HP and 140 torque.  Its only been over 100 mph a couple times, but gets there real quick.

I just do not like it being governed.  Doubt I will run it over a hundred more than a couple times in the few years I own it.

[spook120]

Been west many times...just got back actually from a 7 day trip through Wyoming. The GSA I was on this trip purred all day long on the slab at posted speeds.  I hear you about being told what you can and can't do.  Still, the fact remains 99% of those who buy HD bikes never use them to their full potential even when in stock form.  Good thing we as owners can do what ever we decide (and can afford ) to do once the papers are signed.  Ride safe.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Been west many times...just got back actually from a 7 day trip through Wyoming. The GSA I was on this trip purred all day long on the slab at posted speeds.  I hear you about being told what you can and can't do.  Still, the fact remains 99% of those who buy HD bikes never use them to their full potential even when in stock form. Good thing we as owners can do what ever we decide (and can afford ) to do once the papers are signed.  Ride safe.

I sure have to agree with that.  Most will not even break the speed limit, and most slow way down for curves.  Really enjoy the people in my local HOG chapter and I am a charter member, out of 200 people there are about 5 I will ride with. 

Wyoming is one of my favorite states to ride.  Ride safe

[Heatwave]

I sure have to agree with that.  Most will not even break the speed limit, and most slow way down for curves.  Really enjoy the people in my local HOG chapter and I am a charter member, out of 200 people there are about 5 I will ride with. 

Wyoming is one of my favorite states to ride.  Ride safe

Right on the money.