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[Glenncarp]

Last day of Skyline to Blue ridge trip, Used Tyre to plan entire trip, What I have learned about HD GPS and Tyre:

Plan your route from your location to end point, when done, move start point a distance on the route away from start point. If you do not and GPS is not EXACT on your location, the GPS will keep re routing you back to start point, I circled Roanoke twice to get back to hotel even though I started from there, GPS was only off by yards, but it was south of parking lot and we were heading north, Do not use "avoid" feature on HD GPS, it changes your route, Hit the three lines on right of map screen and there is an option "cancel next waypoint" The GPS then takes you on your planned route as inputted. DO NOT cancel the route to add another stop on the way, if you re load the route, it takes you back to start point. I was able to avoid next few waypoint to continue on my planned route, but that is a PITA. Find your POI and add it as a stop, once there (Re: gas) the GPS will return you to your route as you planned it. All in all, it worked well once I learned these tricks.

Maybe someone has a way, I searched and could not find it in Tyre, but anyone know how to avoid non paved roads? I planed a few twisty's and on 3 occasions, they took me down gravel roads, that sucked. Anyone know how Tyre can avoid these roads?

[NH Bulldog]

I have been testing the MyRouteApp for a few weeks now.  I discovered the same thing as you as far as the GPS wanting to send you back to the start point if you were not actually at the start point.  Your solution is the same as what I have discovered.  The first thing I had to get over with this GPS is to understand that it was not a Garmin.  I think the biggest thing to understand with this built-in GPS is that the software provider is based somewhere in Eastern Europe and the system was designed for use in a car, not a motorcycle, so not enough detail was put into the system to make it rider friendly.  I think "meh, close enough" is their way of thinking.   

As far as avoidance's, I found that if I download and saved the route as a Harley Davidson .gpx 1.1 Route (in the "Save As" drop down menu), I have not had an issue with the onboard GPS changing my plotted route from what I planned in MyRouteApp.  So I keep my GPS dirt road avoidance checked. 

What I have found is more of an issue, is the mapping data that Harley uses in the GPS.  On the GPS screen, among other things Yellow Roads are state highways, White Roads are local paved roads and Brown Roads are appropriately enough dirt roads.  I can get to my house by numerous routes, but only two are completely paved.  The GPS always wants me to go up a certain road that starts out as paved, but turns to dirt/gravel for a mile.  If I turn around, it tries to send me up a different road that also starts out as paved, but turns to dirt.  If I zoom out on the GPS it shows these roads as a white road all the way through.  I have also noticed while riding that as I come up to a side road, sometimes they will be Brown and sure enough as I pass, the road it is dirt.  But just as often, when I see a White road on the GPS coming up, it is in fact a dirt road and not a paved road.

The GPS provider does have a process for requesting map corrections, but dirt road/paved road is not one of them.         

[Glenncarp]

I have been testing the MyRouteApp for a few weeks now.  I discovered the same thing as you as far as the GPS wanting to send you back to the start point if you were not actually at the start point.  Your solution is the same as what I have discovered.  The first thing I had to get over with this GPS is to understand that it was not a Garmin.  I think the biggest thing to understand with this built-in GPS is that the software provider is based somewhere in Eastern Europe and the system was designed for use in a car, not a motorcycle, so not enough detail was put into the system to make it rider friendly.  I think "meh, close enough" is their way of thinking.   

As far as avoidance's, I found that if I download and saved the route as a Harley Davidson .gpx 1.1 Route (in the "Save As" drop down menu), I have not had an issue with the onboard GPS changing my plotted route from what I planned in MyRouteApp.  So I keep my GPS dirt road avoidance checked. 

What I have found is more of an issue, is the mapping data that Harley uses in the GPS.  On the GPS screen, among other things Yellow Roads are state highways, White Roads are local paved roads and Brown Roads are appropriately enough dirt roads.  I can get to my house by numerous routes, but only two are completely paved.  The GPS always wants me to go up a certain road that starts out as paved, but turns to dirt/gravel for a mile.  If I turn around, it tries to send me up a different road that also starts out as paved, but turns to dirt.  If I zoom out on the GPS it shows these roads as a white road all the way through.  I have also noticed while riding that as I come up to a side road, sometimes they will be Brown and sure enough as I pass, the road it is dirt.  But just as often, when I see a White road on the GPS coming up, it is in fact a dirt road and not a paved road.

The GPS provider does have a process for requesting map corrections, but dirt road/paved road is not one of them.       

Are you saomh Mirout

I have been testing the MyRouteApp for a few weeks now.  I discovered the same thing as you as far as the GPS wanting to send you back to the start point if you were not actually at the start point.  Your solution is the same as what I have discovered.  The first thing I had to get over with this GPS is to understand that it was not a Garmin.  I think the biggest thing to understand with this built-in GPS is that the software provider is based somewhere in Eastern Europe and the system was designed for use in a car, not a motorcycle, so not enough detail was put into the system to make it rider friendly.  I think "meh, close enough" is their way of thinking.   

As far as avoidance's, I found that if I download and saved the route as a Harley Davidson .gpx 1.1 Route (in the "Save As" drop down menu), I have not had an issue with the onboard GPS changing my plotted route from what I planned in MyRouteApp.  So I keep my GPS dirt road avoidance checked. 

What I have found is more of an issue, is the mapping data that Harley uses in the GPS.  On the GPS screen, among other things Yellow Roads are state highways, White Roads are local paved roads and Brown Roads are appropriately enough dirt roads.  I can get to my house by numerous routes, but only two are completely paved.  The GPS always wants me to go up a certain road that starts out as paved, but turns to dirt/gravel for a mile.  If I turn around, it tries to send me up a different road that also starts out as paved, but turns to dirt.  If I zoom out on the GPS it shows these roads as a white road all the way through.  I have also noticed while riding that as I come up to a side road, sometimes they will be Brown and sure enough as I pass, the road it is dirt.  But just as often, when I see a White road on the GPS coming up, it is in fact a dirt road and not a paved road.

The GPS provider does have a process for requesting map corrections, but dirt road/paved road is not one of them.         

OK, just played around with Myrouteapp again and I saw the "save as" you mention, I did not see the avoidance for non paved roads though. Am I missing something?

[Glenncarp]

Are you saomh Mirout
OK, just played around with Myrouteapp again and I saw the "save as" you mention, I did not see the avoidance for non paved roads though. Am I missing something?

Disregard, checked bike and non paved road avoidance was already checked off. I believe the HD system is overridden when you import a route and don't use their system to plan a route. So if any map making program includes an unpaved road, it will be imported into the HD system. Guess I was hoping there was an option in Tyre (Google maps) to avoid unpaved roads,

[NH Bulldog]

many have discovered that when the route is saved as a Harley Davidson .gpx 1.1 route, it will override the onboard GPS settings and explicitly follow your plotted route from MyRouteApp.  So if you plot a route that (even if unknowingly) involves going down a dirt road, (and even if you set your onboard GPS to avoid dirt roads), it WILL take you down that dirt road. 

Unfortunately, at this time there is no good answer for the routing issue short of going back to the fairing mounted Garmin Roadtech Zumo GPS unit.

 

[phato1]

I believe that even the fairing mounted Garmin will not avoid unpaved roads if you upload a planned route that includes them. That's happened to me on ocassion when i wasn't paying attention to the maps legend when planning a route.  I try to be more dilligent about that aspect of route planning now.
I dislike dirt and gravel roads but my wife likes them far less than I do.

[fred786]

Although it adds a little time to building a route, I have always had Google Street View open in a separate tab when building a route.  When my custom route is going to switch from one road to another I bring it up on street view to check that it is paved and have a look at the quality of the road.  I have yet to find a road that was not on street view and has saved my bacon a couple times by looking.  I also indicates the year Google drove the road.