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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #120 on: July 23, 2019, 09:30:04 AM »

Terry,  didn't realize it was still unsold.


Extremely disappointed in the Quality of the 19 Red Pepper.  My 7th CVO since 2009. 

The bike now has 13,300 miles on it.
The front fork legs look like they have been sand blasted,  Chips everywhere.  Looks horrible.
This bike has more paint chips than my last four bikes did added together, and its not been on gravel like two of my past bikes.
The seat looks like it has over 50K miles on it,  it is wearing badly.  My last two CVO showed no wear at all on the seat with 24K miles.
Paint coming off the shifter leavers.

Going to talk to dealer about all this, hoping Harley will cover fork legs, seat and shift levers.  I am 99% sure they will do nothing about the crappy paint that chips if you look at it.

So Dave, based on the issues you are having, do you wish for your '18 back or is the '19 that much better mechanically? 
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #121 on: July 23, 2019, 09:34:54 AM »

So Dave, based on the issues you are having, do you wish for your '18 back or is the '19 that much better mechanically?

I have not had engine issues yet with the 19.  Engines seem about the same.

Fork legs in better condition on the 18 with 24500 miles on it than the 19.
Seat in much better condition on the 18
Paint never had a chip on the 18.

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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #122 on: July 24, 2019, 09:56:47 PM »

The paint quality of autos/cycles has really gone down hill. Gets swirls/chips just looking at it.
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #123 on: July 25, 2019, 04:10:15 AM »

Dave, sorry to hear about all of the issues with the Red Pepper. I’m only at about 5,100 miles on my Mako and when I was washing it the other day I noticed several chips on the lower legs. Nothing on the paint and I’m not using the stock seat. I replaced the front end on my ‘17 CVO Limited with HDs black front end. Rode it twice the miles and never a chip or a scratch. Not sure what changed for ‘19 but it does seem that the lower legs are not holding up.
Let us know if the dealer helps out at all.
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #124 on: July 25, 2019, 06:29:22 AM »

The paint quality of autos/cycles has really gone down hill. Gets swirls/chips just looking at it.
My pick-up has 42K miles on it whole front end is paint,  Only three chips on it, bike has many more chips, smaller surface area and 13,300 miles on it. 
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #125 on: July 26, 2019, 04:38:06 AM »

Well I guess I found my first “issues”. I am wanting to do something this winter with the headpipe and a tuner, possibly a cam. I normally do my own service work but so far I’ve had the local dealer do the 1,000 and now the 5,000. The reason is I wanted to have anything tha might come up documented. While both my ‘17 and ‘18 had zero issues for some reason I just haven’t felt as comfortable about the ‘19. They had to replace the right hand control module and the voltage regulator within the first few hundred miles.
I stopped by yesterday to see when my bike would be ready to pick up from the 5k service. The answer was tomorrow. They let me know there was fluid transfer and they installed the vent kit and the left front rotor was way out of spec and they had ordered a replacement that had just shown up yesterday. I’ll find out the amount of transfer when I pick it up. Funny thing is the trans fluid level didn’t seem to change when I checked it several times between the 1k and 5k service. The rotor measured almost twice the acceptable amount, I think he said .15. Good news he said no evidence of sumping. I had ask them to check for sumping, transfer and the front rotors.
Now it’s time to put some miles and smiles on it...
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #126 on: July 26, 2019, 06:03:44 AM »

The paint quality of autos/cycles has really gone down hill. Gets swirls/chips just looking at it.

That's true - it's mainly due to paints having to be water based, these days, and the search for ever shorter drying times.  Last two BMW cars and one Ford I've had have been terrible for chips and flaws, as well as the normal Ford orange peel effect.  As drying times shorten, the paint doesn't have time to flow before it starts to dry.  Harley paint has been better to me than cars though.
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #127 on: July 26, 2019, 07:52:13 AM »

Found out from a friend that lives near two dealers in Colorado just north of Denver.

They were selling the Red Pepper at $15,000 mark up and the Silver one at $5,000 because “they’re limited stock” and got two people to buy... they’re back down to MSRP now.
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #128 on: July 26, 2019, 10:23:36 AM »

Found out from a friend that lives near two dealers in Colorado just north of Denver.

They were selling the Red Pepper at $15,000 mark up and the Silver one at $5,000 because “they’re limited stock” and got two people to buy... they’re back down to MSRP now.

Holy cow Batman, those are insane markups.  I just purchased my silver/charred steel for $39k before taxes.  I am super happy with that price and would have never paid $5k over sticker.  I also had an offer on a Red Pepper for $39k.  So, the deals are out there. 
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #129 on: July 26, 2019, 03:07:40 PM »

Holy cow Batman, those are insane markups.  I just purchased my silver/charred steel for $39k before taxes.  I am super happy with that price and would have never paid $5k over sticker.  I also had an offer on a Red Pepper for $39k.  So, the deals are out there.

Yea, just wild! I’m looking to buy, but in the middle of buying a house too after relocating for work.

Wife would be much happier with one over the other. Ha
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #130 on: July 28, 2019, 08:02:06 AM »

Found out from a friend that lives near two dealers in Colorado just north of Denver.

They were selling the Red Pepper at $15,000 mark up and the Silver one at $5,000 because “they’re limited stock” and got two people to buy... they’re back down to MSRP now.
That is insane anyone would pay that.  I would never pay over MSRP, you loose enough money on these bikes as soon as you go to trade or sell. 
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #131 on: July 28, 2019, 04:23:56 PM »

Sorry for the problems you are having.  So far I'm doing pretty good with mine. I hated the stock suspension. Changed it all out with legend suspension. Much better. Now I hate the stock seat.  Really sucks on a long ride. Not comfortable at all.   I just ordered the ciro seat that Adam Sandoval is promoting. He has to know to know something about comfort.  He rides way more than I do. Has a long lead time. Oh well.  Hope your issues get resolved.  Stuart. 😕
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #132 on: July 29, 2019, 08:00:30 AM »

Terry,  didn't realize it was still unsold.


Extremely disappointed in the Quality of the 19 Red Pepper.  My 7th CVO since 2009. 

The bike now has 13,300 miles on it.
The front fork legs look like they have been sand blasted,  Chips everywhere.  Looks horrible.
This bike has more paint chips than my last four bikes did added together, and its not been on gravel like two of my past bikes.
The seat looks like it has over 50K miles on it,  it is wearing badly.  My last two CVO showed no wear at all on the seat with 24K miles.
Paint coming off the shifter leavers.

Going to talk to dealer about all this, hoping Harley will cover fork legs, seat and shift levers.  I am 99% sure they will do nothing about the crappy paint that chips if you look at it.
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #133 on: July 31, 2019, 09:20:48 AM »

Sorry for the problems you are having.  So far I'm doing pretty good with mine. I hated the stock suspension. Changed it all out with legend suspension. Much better. Now I hate the stock seat.  Really sucks on a long ride. Not comfortable at all.   I just ordered the ciro seat that Adam Sandoval is promoting. He has to know to know something about comfort.  He rides way more than I do. Has a long lead time. Oh well.  Hope your issues get resolved.  Stuart. 😕

I am interested in that seat as well. Looking forward to your review once you have put some miles on it.
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Re: Traded for Red Pepper
« Reply #134 on: August 01, 2019, 08:34:26 PM »

Sorry for the problems you are having.  So far I'm doing pretty good with mine. I hated the stock suspension. Changed it all out with legend suspension. Much better. Now I hate the stock seat.  Really sucks on a long ride. Not comfortable at all.   I just ordered the ciro seat that Adam Sandoval is promoting. He has to know to know something about comfort.  He rides way more than I do. Has a long lead time. Oh well.  Hope your issues get resolved.  Stuart. 😕
I will be interested in what you think of that seat.

My dealer is going to go to bat for me on the fork legs and the seat. 
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