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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2019, 07:54:30 PM »

Yes the needle thrust bearing behind the "sprocket retainer nut" , the one that came in both kits ?

Put the "new" one back in with the "new" 42200064A kit , basically because it was there AND no plain thrust washer to hand. ( me and the Indy guy talked about it !)

No dealer open on a Sunday to try and get thrust washer # 6557 tho' I had been in the HD dealership on Saturday and did not realise or I forgot ( DUH!)

I did ask the parts guy , with whom I have a good relationship , if SE compensator kits were noted for being noisy and he said not as far as he was aware !

Now this  # 6557 , does that replace ALL 3 of the thrust bearing ( 2 PLAIN ONE ROLLER BEARING) in there right now. Is the # 6557 one thicker plain washer ?

And maybe is there a "service bulletin" on that or is it an aftermarket fix ? Thanks in advance from downunder folks.

Understandably I don't really want to tear it down AGAIN if I can avoid it, tho' I'm a bit of an "expert" now haha...
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2019, 10:10:38 PM »

Question to those who have used the nylon washer. Did you use the two washers that go on either side of the thrust bearing or is it better to leave them out when using the nylon thrust washer?
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2019, 10:51:38 PM »

There was no "nylon" washer in the 42200064A kit that I just used.

Having read around the 'net I am assuming the "Nylon" washer has been superseded.

Again from my searchings it would appear there has/have been 5 "revisions" of these SE Compensator kits
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2019, 06:36:40 AM »

Yes the needle thrust bearing behind the "sprocket retainer nut" , the one that came in both kits ?

Put the "new" one back in with the "new" 42200064A kit , basically because it was there AND no plain thrust washer to hand. ( me and the Indy guy talked about it !)

No dealer open on a Sunday to try and get thrust washer # 6557 tho' I had been in the HD dealership on Saturday and did not realise or I forgot ( DUH!)

I did ask the parts guy , with whom I have a good relationship , if SE compensator kits were noted for being noisy and he said not as far as he was aware !

Now this  # 6557 , does that replace ALL 3 of the thrust bearing ( 2 PLAIN ONE ROLLER BEARING) in there right now. Is the # 6557 one thicker plain washer ?

And maybe is there a "service bulletin" on that or is it an aftermarket fix ? Thanks in advance from downunder folks.

Understandably I don't really want to tear it down AGAIN if I can avoid it, tho' I'm a bit of an "expert" now haha...


The nylon thrust washer does replace all 3 parts of the needle thrust bearing.
It's the same width as needle thrust bearing with washers combined.

The #6557 is an option other then an aftermarket

If the whistling doesn't bother you let it be.  If you do change it you don't need to replace the bolt, just be sure to clean  off the bolt and shaft threads thurley and apply red stud lock/loctite
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2019, 08:10:34 PM »

Well , 220 K's on , some in reasonably hot weather , I changed to primary oil ( again !) , and the extra powerful magnet sump plug ( S&S I believe) had just a few wee mini shards of metal , "normal" would be the diagnosis. Oil fairly clear of metallic sheen thankfully. I bought a bunch of those sump plugs from Rollies in QLD a few years back.

Changed from HD Formula+ to "Genuine Suzuki" fully synthetic Ecstar 10W40 as I had some left from servicing the last Japper ( GSX 1300 ) and wanted to try fully synthetic to see if any difference over the Formula+. Opinions vary on "what oil yada yada", but CVO's came from new with HD SYN 3 and I don't keep that on the shelf.

There is still I am assuming Spring pack noise , some fixes appear to be replacing the thin roller bearing with a new thicker Thrust washer from HD part # 6557.

I have that ordered from the local HD dealer , $14 it will stay on the shelf for now and I will see how I go.OR fit another small Belleville spring in the spring pack OR both !

Another stripdown to do all that of course , and I am trying to avoid that. I have reused the same primary gasket each build , seems to be holding up thankfully

A cooler day today , to be "only" 27C (41 a few days back!), perfect day for Harley riding actually ( apologies to those in the Northern hemisphere !).So it will get another wee test run
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2019, 10:05:48 AM »

Replace the needle thrust bearing with the thrust washer # 6557

The needle thrust bearing has been reported being noisy

Slip an extra "small" spring in the spring pack and install a Compensaver, it has a fibre washer with it. As others have stated the needle bearing is noisy !  That should quiet it right down and get some oil to the compensator. I use redline MTL for primary because it has a EP additive in it. 
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2019, 04:37:17 PM »

According to the GMR website sales of the compensaver have been suspended. Does anyone know if they are available elsewhere????
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2019, 04:50:07 PM »

  Glad it's working out for you.  You've had your share of stripping it down to get where your with it now. No sign of anything major going on from what you said  was on the drain plug that always a plus.

The needle thrust bearing may quiet down it time, can't really say..

I'm running with ATF Fully synthetic with a Lube Gard Platinum Additive an OEM ATF Alternative it's a High Performance Fluid Protectant . I've only been running  with ATF for a short  time now about 2.5k, so far I find it working well.
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2019, 07:58:35 AM »

Trying to secure one of these from GMR Performance. These used to be available with the "Compensaver" aftermarket oiler system ( NLA sadly as a complete unit !)

This is to replace the 3 piece roller bearing that comes with the latest 2014 and up SE Compensator kits. This has been suggested as a source of my "whirring noise"

This quest of mine has turned up a trove of info , so sorry this link is being typed manually

Look at the drop down menu button titled "Study results thru August 2015"

www.compensaver.com
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2019, 11:22:08 AM »

As you know that's the thrust washer that replaces the needle thrust bearing (IN PHOTO)

The second pic replaces the oil compensaver that's discontinued 
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2019, 11:28:51 AM »

   I assume you've installed this (the one I believe should be in yours is part #62700063) in the pic is the #62700064

The 63 is smaller
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2019, 01:18:43 PM »

You should have got one of each  compensaver oil Deflector in your kit the # 62700063 and a # 62700064
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2019, 05:11:15 PM »

I did get those 2 plastic parts in the kit , but instead I fitted a "new bike take-off" outer primary cover from a 2014 Dyna ( that already had forward controls )

This is an "alloy" finish cover from a Dyna Switchback that I fitted a chrome engine set to for a mate back then. Already had the "cast-in" oil delivery tray/scoop.

2014 Dyna alloy Internal part # 60784-06A. The 2008 chrome original was 60784-06

I can always "fix" the original chrome OEM item later on a whim if I choose. The alloy actually looks quite OK and already I am used to it.

Waiting for GMR to confirm if they still have a supply of those thrust washers , I am hoping so ! The noise is driving me crazy.

On the freeway the primary appears noisier to me as the rider than the V&H exhaust !

Going to ride it 20 K's over to the Indy shop today to give him a ride and a listen to it, to "only" be 31C today (Tuesday 15th), 40C by this coming Sunday !
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2019, 07:36:37 PM »

Good going then so you should be running smooth on the comp getting it's  required oil.
The thrust washer shouldn't be that hard to obtain
And that weather report that's a meltdown, ice cones wouldn't stand a chance.  :huepfenlol2:
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Re: 2008 FXSTSSE2 new compensator required
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2019, 08:10:16 PM »

Ok so just so l understand things the Harley 6557 thrust washer and the GMR thrust washer are the same thickness? And the Harley plastic oil tray provides sufficiently oiling?
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