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Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« on: January 29, 2019, 08:23:50 PM »

Looking at a silver 09 SERG, looks good, but can't test ride. I'm in NY, bike is in TX. I have a 1990 EVO with 106,000 and still runs great, just looking to upgrade. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2019, 08:31:21 PM »

That would depend greatly on the price.  If you can get it at a low enough price to put a motor in it and still not have more $$ in it than the average 09 SERG is worth then I might consider it. 

It was a unique model that year, with a nice paint scheme that still turns heads ten years later.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2019, 08:51:18 PM »

Price is $11,000. I've always liked the 2000 in orange, but the 09 silver is sharp. Also don't see any oil stains on cylinders.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2019, 09:07:47 PM »

For me it would have to be cosmetically brilliant at that price; and that's something you can't guarantee from half a continent away.  It's also something that is a subjective measure so you can't trust someone else's word or judgment.  Especially when that someone else is the owner/seller.

Have seen a few examples of those bikes sell in the last six months.  Lowest I know of was about $16.  Highest of the four I know of that sold was $20500.  So split the difference and consider a good negotiated average.  So $17-18K ?  Especially if you're not willing to pay top dollar.  At that versus the asking price you're eating up every bit of the difference buying an engine.  After that you've still got everything from handlebar bushings, to swingarm and other suspension consumables that are pieces you'd have to consider with that many miles. 

It may not be an awful price (assuming outstanding cosmetics).  But it's not a home run either.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2019, 09:14:57 PM »

It looks very good cosmetically, but it has I think about 16" apes on it..are they hard to put back to stock?
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2019, 09:17:35 PM »

In my area. A nice 09 serg. With about 40-50 k miles. Will bring around $15k.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2019, 09:38:34 PM »

It looks very good cosmetically, but it has I think about 16" apes on it..are they hard to put back to stock?

You would not like the position of the stock, OEM bars.  If you don't like the bars that are on it, drop down to the 14" apes (same as the Harley close reach bars which were 2" up and 2" back closer to the rider....a very comfortable ride.  I still have them on my 13 CVO Ultra Classic.

If you're really interested in it, have him take it to the local HD dealership and have them do a compression test on both cylinders on your dime (pay the dealership by credit card over the phone, when he goes to pick it up, then the dealership will share information with you directly).  Ask them that knowing it's a high milage bike, what is their opnion of it in it's current condition....anything of immediate concern.   Then negotiate with the seller for your best offer.  Don't be afraid to go low with it.....he's not going to have people running at him to make an offer on it.

Another thought just occurred to me.....there's a good chance that he's sitting at home reading all of this.   :P
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2019, 10:08:35 PM »

So if a broader price average is even lower than the four nice bikes I'd seen that only further reinforces the "not really a great deal" idea.  I'd not let high miles scare me off.  You've just got to account for a full slate of regular and consumable maintenance that has to be assumed hasn't been done plus an engine re-work or replacement.  All that adds up far more quickly than we (optimistically) assume until we're deep in the weeds.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2019, 09:36:56 AM »

Lowest I know of was about $16. 

is that a correct price?  if so, was it totaled and anything salvageable?
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2019, 09:39:43 AM »

I've never owned a twin cam, but have heard of the problems with the cam chains. I guess the hydraulic tensioners help, but still need to be checked. Wouldn't you think with that many miles some motor work would have to have to been done? I don't think he will take it to a dealer to be checked, I can maybe hear it run over the phone. Are the 110's more prone to issues than the 103? I guess I'll plan on openeing up the cam chest asap and start there.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2019, 09:46:13 AM »

Title states clean. Looks to be in great condition for the miles, obviously someone took care of her.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2019, 10:07:35 AM »

That would depend greatly on the price.  If you can get it at a low enough price to put a motor in it and still not have more $$ in it than the average 09 SERG is worth then I might consider it. 

It was a unique model that year, with a nice paint scheme that still turns heads ten years later.

JCZ:
I agree with your strategy. In addition to the factory rebuilt motor I would also consider a tranny, compensator and clutch pack as well as those bearings. That way you would have essentially a new 2009 at market price.

I’m thinking around $10k would work.

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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2019, 12:40:12 PM »

The three that I currently have were bought as used CVO's, the mileage does not scare me that much (got a friend with 160K on a 2008) but it does of course affect the price.  The problem for me would be the distance, if I could see it, hear it, ride it that is one thing. 

The dealer doing the test helps but that is really only part of the equation. 

The price does not seem terrible, but you need to ask yourself if this is really a good deal, why hasn't somebody in TX bought it?   
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2019, 01:15:04 PM »

 Where in TX

 I remember hurricane Harvey (2017) hit the coast pretty hard, Just a thought.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2019, 01:31:56 PM »

I would Not buy it unless it's pristine and you are ok with putting a new motor in it.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2019, 08:03:56 PM »

The question you probably need to ask yourself is this the bike of my dreams. Its has miles on it yes and could be looked over to get the relative shape of the motor. To buy looking as a investment will lead to a disappointing result. If the bike is somewhat stock would you leave it that way or would you be spending the money anyhow to modify.

As others have said, it's not a great price if it's not what you want, but not a bad price if the silver 09 is what you want to own.

I own a yellow 09 and it's the bike I always wanted to own. For me to sale it would take way more than that $16,000.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2019, 09:27:17 PM »

I don't know how anyone could make an educated decision without all or at least most of the facts. I mean 120K means that it has probably had a bunch of work done along the way but the questions are aside from physical condition, what work has been done and when and at what mileage and what parts were used.
As was mentioned earlier, if you are serious and none of that info. is available, get a 3rd party involved to inspect the bike thoroughly including a compression test and listening for valve train and compensator noise and tire, belt and pulley wear/condition and a test drive by said 3rd party to determine suspension, clutch, tranny and such. You could use an Independent or a Harley dealership. I would think if you ask around on this site that you could find a member that could help like GMR or someone down there in Texas.

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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2019, 10:13:42 PM »

I would never even consider it.  Stuart.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 10:59:12 PM »

Title states clean. Looks to be in great condition for the miles, obviously someone took care of her.

You don't think he'll take it to a dealership to get a compression test done?  Not even if you're paying for it?  With over 100k miles he should have done that.  Not sure what makes you think he will not but it would not even be a consideration for me, if he's not willing to get that done.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2019, 11:38:03 PM »

The question you probably need to ask yourself is this the bike of my dreams. Its has miles on it yes and could be looked over to get the relative shape of the motor. To buy looking as a investment will lead to a disappointing result. If the bike is somewhat stock would you leave it that way or would you be spending the money anyhow to modify.

As others have said, it's not a great price if it's not what you want, but not a bad price if the silver 09 is what you want to own.

I own a yellow 09 and it's the bike I always wanted to own. For me to sale it would take way more than that $16,000.

I totally agree, I bought a 09SERG Electric Orange  4 years ago This was the bike of my dreams back when it came out. Granted I have put some $$$ into it but for me it was well worth it. I had thought about selling it & getting a BMW Bagger but no one would come close to paying what I was asking. Which is ok cause I love this bike, besides wife’s says to me the other day “Just buy the BMW & have two”


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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2019, 10:29:51 AM »

Unless you are committed to keeping it "forever" I would not buy it.  Sticking with a lower mileage one that others will buy is a much better investment!
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2019, 06:42:33 PM »

Fishdoktor, my buddy is selling his 09 silver RG. 12,000 miles on it. Comes with detachable color matched tour pac. This bike is clean!  $23,000. Here in Ohio. If you want pics send me your Phone #...
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2019, 09:26:20 PM »

Fishdoktor, my buddy is selling his 09 silver RG. 12,0000 miles on it. Comes with detachable color matched tour pac. This bike is clean!  $23,000. Here in Ohio. If you want pics send me your Phone #...


What is "12,0000" supposed to be? 12,000 or 120,000?
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2019, 01:18:36 PM »

I have to agree with the owner, and per this site it is not a popular opinion, but I would not take my time to go to a dealer, have a compression test or anything else. I have sold over 50 cars/trucks/bikes and have had requests like this, never did I even consider it. He is selling the bike, honestly or not, and you are buying. Up to you to decide if you want it. If you don't buy it there is always someone else. I can not tell you how many who wanted dealer checks, they didn't get, eventually bought and paid my price.
On the original question. I had one of those hot running, abs problem, lowers don't fit without changing fairing bracket, did I say hot running beautiful bikes. And NO WAY would I buy one with that many miles. To many out there with acceptable miles.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2019, 04:55:38 PM »

I found a complete 08 103 motor with 10 thou on it for $1900, I mean everything! Trans, clutch, inner primary outer primary, the works! just wondering what the difference is between the 103 and the 110? Just cylinders or flywheels, or both, thanks.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2019, 11:43:48 AM »

OOOPS! Thanks BigChuck… I pride myself on spell check and correct info. That one got by me.. Yes, it has only 12,000 miles on her...
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2019, 08:26:27 PM »

OOOPS! Thanks BigChuck… I pride myself on spell check and correct info. That one got by me.. Yes, it has only 12,000 miles on her...

So I'm 4 months late to this discussion... 12k miles for $11k,

Did you buy it and if you did not is it still for sale? .


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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2019, 08:43:12 PM »

So I'm 4 months late to this discussion... 12k miles for $11k,

Did you buy it and if you did not is it still for sale? .
I think, but not certain, they're talking about 2 different bikes.  Fishdoktor's bike is in TX and has 120Kmiles, while Ultra13's buddy is probably around Ohio and only has 12Kmiles.  That part confused me at first, and not absolutely sure now. lol
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2019, 09:15:18 AM »

If you buy that bike with that many miles on it, you will be stuck with it for life.  I would never do it.    Stuart.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2019, 06:19:02 PM »

Yes 2018, the bike is still for sale. 09' silver color RG CVO. 12,000mi, $20,000, detachable tour pack, very clean.
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Re: Would anyone buy a 2009 SERG 110 with 120,000 miles?
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2019, 05:59:50 PM »

I think, but not certain, they're talking about 2 different bikes.  Fishdoktor's bike is in TX and has 120Kmiles, while Ultra13's buddy is probably around Ohio and only has 12Kmiles.  That part confused me at first, and not absolutely sure now. lol

you're correct... I had to go back and read the entire thread....

fishdoktor,

The 120k mile bike in Texas, did you ever buy it? IF not, why not?

As I ride the ____ out of anything I own, the miles are irrelevant.

I know of a grey-finish 120R with MSO sitting in a box someone needs to sell, and a cheap bike would go well with that.

(Plus I miss my Silver '09)...
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