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[Jbbrown73]

I recently bought a 2002 SERK which has the 95" motor.  I rode the bike about 500 miles within the last week and am confident it is a keeper.  Since it has 37,000 miles on it I am going to go ahead and do the gear drive cam conversion just to be safe.  I am planning some long trips later this year and don't want to have to worry about it.  The bike is bone stock at this point.  I am not a hot rodder, I do ride 2 up loaded with gear.  I have no complaints with the amount of power the bike has.  I did look up and find that the stock compression ratio is 9.4 on this motor.  My question to all of you who have some experience is what grind of cam should I go with?  I am more about torque than high rpm power.  I would appreciate feedback from those who have done this conversion. 

[Unbalanced]

A couple of cam's come to mind for you.   I would look at the Andrews 37g.   If you look at the Andrews 55g you will need to or want to bump up the compression using a .030 cometic head gasket should get you to 9.5 or 9.6 from your stock config.   I have run these and both should fit into your 2 up style very well.  If you don't want to up the compression the 37g is fine.   Some other cams you may want to look at are the S&S 570g, Zippers 570g.

I would recommend you check the specs on your heads for the lift the stock springs will handle vs. the cams you may want in your 95.  It may turn out that you will need/want to clearance the rockerboxes and probably change out the springs.   This isnt a bad idea anyhow since the bike already has 30k+ miles on it.   While your in there I would also recommend a new oil pump, lifters.   Check out the Feuling line for these.

[electraglidese]

I have a stock 2000 Heritage carb bike I have the andrews 37g cam love it no head work done smooth and quiet.
I also have a 2004 cvo 103 and just put the woods tw5g cam in it loud valve trian noise but lots of low end torq. 37g is a good cam a lot of folks have them.

[Talon]

You didn't mention if you were doing any other mods, like exhaust and A/C. I'd get a good set of slip-ons like V&H Classic or a 2 to 1 to complement you cam choice for more torque and some added HP. Below is a web page that has the spec's of the cams mentioned above, so you can compare. This site also has a section on selecting cams, that will give you good info.


http://www.nightrider.com/cgi-bin/ff_database.pl?ff_config.txt

[Hoist!]

That's a great chart. I've used Sifton Cams in all my Evo's. It appears that Black Widow bought the assets of Sifton inlcluding all their Master Selections and equipment. Anyone familiar with Black Widow? http://www.feelthepoison.com/ Looks like my kind of Company. The other cams I would like feedback on are Leineweber Cams. Sifton and Leineweber are 2 great names in Drag Racing. Love that racing chit! Hoist!

[Scooterhair]

The SE203 and the SE211 are both good cams for milder motors and riders. They also don't require much more than push rods to install. I would also do a cam service kit and the new style cam chain shoes.


Scooter   

[Tros]

The SE203 and the SE211 are both good cams for milder motors and riders. They also don't require much more than push rods to install. I would also do a cam service kit and the new style cam chain shoes.


Scooter   

That's good news, I've been thinking about the SE203 cam for my 96" Softail. 

Anyone have an opinion on the SE Pro TC Performance heads PN 16352-06?   Other than the compression bump do they flow a whole lot better than the stock '07 96" heads?  The valve sizes aren't listed in the catalog. 

[SPIDERMAN]

That's good news, I've been thinking about the SE203 cam for my 96" Softail. 

Anyone have an opinion on the SE Pro TC Performance heads PN 16352-06?   Other than the compression bump do they flow a whole lot better than the stock '07 96" heads?  The valve sizes aren't listed in the catalog. 

    I think you've got the wrong part number on the heads. I may be wrong, but I believe you need 16952-06 ( Black and Silver) or 16953-06  (Silver)  I couldn't find a 16352-06 in the catalogue. Anyway I have 16953-06 on my build-up of LD from a 96" to a 104 I'm also running an SE-257 Cam. Adjustable pushrods, Doherty Power Pacc and a SERT. I'm over 100 on both numbers even with stock head pipes and 65115-98B  SE Slip-ons. I would imagine it would be even better with a set of Reinhart true-duals. LD is going on the Dyno this week and I'll post the actual numbers when I have them. But the bike runs strong for a mild build on a 103. I am pleased with it.

    The SE203 is the cam that comes stock in a CVO 103. I've got it in Elvis along with a SE Breather, Reinharts and a SERT and I'm below 100 on both numbers. The Big E is strong as well since an RK is a lot lighter than LD does, fully dressed out  with a King Tour-pak and Corbin seat etc etc. In case you didn't know, Corbin seats weigh about twice what a stock H-D seat does. I am not unhappy with the way Elvis runs, because it's smooth as glass. You can feel the cams in LD.

    It all depends on what you want out of the bike. If you really want to go fast, none of the above is what you're looking for. I'd reference you to Hubbard, Chip, Dawg, Otis, Grover and that group for Maximum performance flat out go fast bikes. If you want something between mild and wild, talk to UNBALANCED ( Harry) or fired00d or Twolanerider to name a few. I like performance, but I prefer total reliability so I tend to stay on the cautious side of things. I know I've left out some names or probably got a couple people in the wrong catagory and started another round of pissin on the subject but c'est la vie - -  c'est si bon.

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[hd-dude]

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    The SE203 is the cam that comes stock in a CVO 103. I've got it in Elvis along with a ........

B B

Minor correction here B', The CVO-253 is what comes stock in the 103 motors......

[Tros]

    I think you've got the wrong part number on the heads. I may be wrong, but I believe you need 16952-06 ( Black and Silver) or 16953-06  (Silver)  I couldn't find a 16352-06 in the catalogue. Anyway I have 16953-06 on my build-up of LD from a 96" to a 104 I'm also running an SE-257 Cam. Adjustable pushrods, Doherty Power Pacc and a SERT. I'm over 100 on both numbers even with stock head pipes and 65115-98B  SE Slip-ons. I would imagine it would be even better with a set of Reinhart true-duals. LD is going on the Dyno this week and I'll post the actual numbers when I have them. But the bike runs strong for a mild build on a 103. I am pleased with it.

    The SE203 is the cam that comes stock in a CVO 103. I've got it in Elvis along with a SE Breather, Reinharts and a SERT and I'm below 100 on both numbers. The Big E is strong as well since an RK is a lot lighter than LD does, fully dressed out  with a King Tour-pak and Corbin seat etc etc. In case you didn't know, Corbin seats weigh about twice what a stock H-D seat does. I am not unhappy with the way Elvis runs, because it's smooth as glass. You can feel the cams in LD.

    It all depends on what you want out of the bike. If you really want to go fast, none of the above is what you're looking for. I'd reference you to Hubbard, Chip, Dawg, Otis, Grover and that group for Maximum performance flat out go fast bikes. If you want something between mild and wild, talk to UNBALANCED ( Harry) or fired00d or Twolanerider to name a few. I like performance, but I prefer total reliability so I tend to stay on the cautious side of things. I know I've left out some names or probably got a couple people in the wrong catagory and started another round of pissin on the subject but c'est la vie - -  c'est si bon.

B B

  Thank you.  Yeah I totally borked the head part number, shoulda been 16952-06 Black & Silver.   I was looking at "non epa" cams for a bit more torque and smoother running.  Those heads looked interesting.  Were you using them on a 96" engine early on? 

[SPIDERMAN]

Thank you.  Yeah I totally borked the head part number, shoulda been 16952-06 Black & Silver.   I was looking at "non epa" cams for a bit more torque and smoother running.  Those heads looked interesting.  Were you using them on a 96" engine early on? 

Yes, I started with a stock 2007 Road Glide 96" motor

 " early on "  ?

I bought my 07 RG on 9/14/06  is that what you mean ?

Are you referring to the Pre-November built ECM issue perhaps ?

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[Tros]

Yes, I started with a stock 2007 Road Glide 96" motor

 " early on "  ?

I bought my 07 RG on 9/14/06  is that what you mean ?

Are you referring to the Pre-November built ECM issue perhaps ?

B B

I meant early on in the process, like did you put the heads on the 96 or were the heads part of the initial 103 build?  I'm curious as to the effect they would have on a 96" engine vs the cost.   If the chart in the catalog is accurate, the CR would be 10.3:1 with stock 96".

I have a pre-Nov bike.  It surges a bit between 63 - 70 mph.  Under 70 mph, with a passenger, oil temp today was steady @ 235 F cruising between 40 & 65 mph mostly in 5th gear.  Ambient temp was 72-75 F.  The oil temp rose to about 245 give or take when I opened it up a bit on a merge and stayed between 75 & 80 in 6th gear for about 15 miles then dropped back to 235 when I slowed to between 65 & 70 mph while remaining in 6th gear. 

I have no idea if the bike has had any ECM updates. I was told it was up to date at purchase but I haven't had it checked yet. 

I'm not unhappy with the stock power I'm just thinking mild non-epa cams (SE-203), SE AC (w/round Nostalgic cover), SERT, SE TC forged rocker supports (stability) and SE pro perfect fit pushrods (stiff & light) would perk it up, smooth out the power delivery and make it run a bit cooler.  The stock mufflers appear to be non-catalyst and I'd prefer keep them.   Can't forget the oil cooler, probably should do that first.

[STICKMAN]

Hey JB,
A couple of things. First off your bike has stock twin cam 88 heads (I can get the part number as soon as I get home) Second your bike came with Screamin Eagle SE-203 cams. With the amount of miles you have you want to get rid of those cam chain shoes pretty soon. They have been known to fragment at 20K. If you want to put gear driven cams in, you can't use Sreamin Eagle cams. Gear drive cams are ground differently and turn in the opposite direction. The S&S 570 cams are a good choice. They are recommended for compression ratios from 9.1  to 10.0 .

[Jbbrown73]

Hey JB,
A couple of things. First off your bike has stock twin cam 88 heads (I can get the part number as soon as I get home) Second your bike came with Screamin Eagle SE-203 cams. With the amount of miles you have you want to get rid of those cam chain shoes pretty soon. They have been known to fragment at 20K. If you want to put gear driven cams in, you can't use Sreamin Eagle cams. Gear drive cams are ground differently and turn in the opposite direction. The S&S 570 cams are a good choice. They are recommended for compression ratios from 9.1  to 10.0 .

Thanks for the advice.  I am all stock, is this too much lift and duration with stock pipes and intake? Will I need a ecm remap.  The guy doing the work recommended the 510.  Keep in mind, I am not after power, just reliability.

[Hoist!]

Thanks for the advice.  I am all stock, is this too much lift and duration with stock pipes and intake? Will I need a ecm remap.  The guy doing the work recommended the 510.  Keep in mind, I am not after power, just reliability.

The 510 is a mildrer cam than the 570 and might be a good choice for you. It's a bolt-on replacement. Regardless, it's a different cam than the SE, as far as the cam characteristics go. I'd have it remapped for optimum performance with the new cam, even if you don't change anything else. Go with the gear drive though. You might also want to think about oil pump upgrades while you're in there. Hoist!