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cockawit

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tranny oil in primary
« on: February 14, 2019, 08:40:35 AM »
anybody else on here have their transmission oil end up in the primary? it happened to me on a 2019 road glide ultra with the hyd. clutch. has anybody tried the cultch push rod from Macomb county choppers? they claim to have the fix.
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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2019, 09:54:32 AM »
I'm planning on installing the "pushrod", just as a preventative measure. I haven't experienced the transfer that I know of. After my engine upgrade, I want to do anything possible to prevent issues with oil sumping or otherwise!.Also putting on the AIM Light Force to improve the clutch pull force (from AIM SDR install) and engagement point.

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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2019, 11:43:47 AM »
keep me informed after the install Dave.

thanks Russ
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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2019, 10:58:12 PM »
Quote from: cockawit on February 14, 2019, 08:40:35 AM
anybody else on here have their transmission oil end up in the primary? it happened to me on a 2019 road glide ultra with the hyd. clutch. has anybody tried the cultch push rod from Macomb county choppers? they claim to have the fix.

Well documented issue on the M8.  Google search "oil migration Harley m8."  You'll find quite a few items to read. 
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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2019, 01:36:21 PM »
I've changed primary oil twice now and have not seen an issue.  Tranny fliuid level always the same.  4700 miles on my 2018 CVO Road Glide.
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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2019, 05:40:14 PM »
I have a 2019 CVO Ultra and 9 ounces of transmission oil migrated to the primary in 5000 mile. HD allows 8 ounces of migration so mine was documented to HD and waiting to see how much migration I have next time LOL I guess they all do that.


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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2019, 05:58:12 PM »
Quote from: glinkmeyer on February 23, 2019, 05:40:14 PM
I have a 2019 CVO Ultra and 9 ounces of transmission oil migrated to the primary in 5000 mile. HD allows 8 ounces of migration so mine was documented to HD and waiting to see how much migration I have next time LOL I guess they all do that.


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WHAT   ???  :o

Mother Harley actually created a specification to allow for a leak migration that never should have happened to begin with? 

If the same 8 ounces (but not 9!) leaked to the ground would that loss from the transmission still be ok?

Since transmission gear oil is viscous and will have significant surface cohesion to all the parts surfaces in the transmission how are they going to accurately measure a difference of one ounce?

S....   ahh, never mind.  These people keep getting stupider and stupider and assume the riders are the same.  If they're going to try to feed the customer base bullchit they should at least show us the respect of being subtle about it and not rubbing in our faces that they truly do believe we sheep in line to their corporate dollar slaughter.
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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2019, 09:41:31 PM »
Quote from: glinkmeyer on February 23, 2019, 05:40:14 PM
I have a 2019 CVO Ultra and 9 ounces of transmission oil migrated to the primary in 5000 mile. HD allows 8 ounces of migration so mine was documented to HD and waiting to see how much migration I have next time LOL I guess they all do that.


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 I Think I got you beat!
Trans holds 28 oz, my trans had just over 7 when drained.
Guess where it went?
This is a new 2019 CVO limited with just over 200 miles! Less than one week old!
Let’s see if the dealer and factory will step up to the plate.
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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2019, 09:47:22 PM »
Quote from: HOGMIKE on March 07, 2019, 09:41:31 PM
I Think I got you beat!
Trans holds 28 oz, my trans had just over 7 when drained.
Guess where it went?
This is a new 2019 CVO limited with just over 200 miles! Less than one week old!
Let’s see if the dealer and factory will step up to the plate.
 :nixweiss:
Sorry to hear, hope you didn’t hurt the transmission, a friend of mines transmission went out on a 2019 three wheel TriGlide from oil migration.


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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2019, 10:47:13 PM »
I wonder if their "new" heavier gear oil is part of the MOCO 's solution. Thicker oil less likely to migrate....
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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2019, 03:23:21 PM »
Quote from: Threephase on March 07, 2019, 10:47:13 PM
I wonder if their "new" heavier gear oil is part of the MOCO 's solution. Thicker oil less likely to migrate....
Wondering the same thing.  Just saw this "new"  80W-140 Synthetic Gear Lube product in their January 2019 New Parts Catalog .
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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2019, 07:52:04 PM »
Yes, seen a seminar today trying to tell everyone about how much better it would be to use the heavier oil. LOL


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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2019, 08:52:32 PM »
Quote from: glinkmeyer on March 09, 2019, 07:52:04 PM
Yes, seen a seminar today trying to tell everyone about how much better it would be to use the heavier oil. LOL


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This from the same company that tried to blame Cruise Drive trans problems on customers using heavier than standard lube back in 07/08.  Btw, I seriously doubt the increase in viscosity would magically eliminate the transfer problem.

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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2019, 09:44:13 PM »
For those who wish to keep their warranties intact and let the dealership and factory rep take care of this issue there is a updated vent for the primary. You will never know it’s there unless someone points it out.

Not saying this takes care of the cause but I was assured it DOES take care of the effect.
Time will tell and I will be monitoring the oil levels.

I’ll stick with the “factory fix” until they give up and buy the bike back. I’m told mine was one of the bad ones. 700 miles on a new bike and we noticed the problem at about 200.
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Re: tranny oil in primary
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2019, 09:20:01 AM »
What is this updated vent for the primary?  A new part number?  How do you get it?
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