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Harley union...
« on: March 28, 2019, 07:44:32 AM »

Harley-Davidson employees stage protests days before their union contract expires
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Re: Harley union...
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2019, 07:46:46 AM »

Harley-Davidson employees stage protests days before their union contract expires
Protest or informational picketing? Got a link to the source?

Our Union keeps having us do informational picketing when it gets close to contract time and talks seem to be going nowhere.
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Re: Harley union...
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2019, 08:06:16 AM »

Lowest sales in 8 years. My guess is the negotiations will not go well...
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2019, 08:27:51 AM »

Most likely not.  HD may offer to charge their employees a fee to park in the employee parking lot as a negotiation tactic.
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Re: Harley union...
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2019, 08:41:39 AM »

Lowest sales in 8 years. My guess is the negotiations will not go well...

Considering the fact that the workers got screwed on the last contract even though Harley was still making decent profits at the time, I would guess they will really get screwed this time.  Such is the current state of labor in this country.  When times are good, management and stockholders get most of the rewards.  When times are tough, upper management still manages to get rewarded and the workforce takes it in the ear.  The lesson to be learned is to make sure you're a member of upper management, not labor and lower management. 

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Re: Harley union...
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2019, 08:45:29 AM »

Protest or informational picketing? Got a link to the source?

Our Union keeps having us do informational picketing when it gets close to contract time and talks seem to be going nowhere.

Sounds like CWA... :nixweiss:
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Re: Harley union...
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2019, 10:43:51 AM »

Sounds like CWA... :nixweiss:
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Re: Harley union...
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2019, 11:50:53 AM »

Based on company performance, labor doesn't have a strong negotiating stance.  They'll be lucky to keep the workers they have now on the payroll.  I'm not sure how labor could expect more compensation - they'll be lucky if they can keep what they have.
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Re: Harley union...
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2019, 03:17:05 PM »

I never saw anybody picketing in Thailand. 

No wonder they are moving manufacturing overseas.

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Re: Harley union...
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2019, 09:00:06 PM »

Considering the fact that the workers got screwed on the last contract even though Harley was still making decent profits at the time, I would guess they will really get screwed this time.  Such is the current state of labor in this country.  When times are good, management and stockholders get most of the rewards.  When times are tough, upper management still manages to get rewarded and the workforce takes it in the ear.  The lesson to be learned is to make sure you're a member of upper management, not labor and lower management. 

Jerry

Right now, labor market is doing very well, better than it has in 14 years or more.  The amount of Manufacturing is going way up also, many plants are expanding and hiring.  Wages are going up in Manufacturing also.  I know every car parts manufacturer and both VW and Nissan are hiring in my area.

That said, Harley is doing the opposite as the rest of manufacturing.  Harley sales are way down.  Production is way down.  They will be lucky to keep their jobs.  The blame is not only Harley Managements, but also the board of directors, and investors.  They did not plan for the rapid decline in sales due to Boomers dying and also deciding the cost of the product has gone up way to high.

HD needs less employees, and less production space, and reduced output.
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Re: Harley union...
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2019, 10:54:24 PM »

Right now, labor market is doing very well, better than it has in 14 years or more.  The amount of Manufacturing is going way up also, many plants are expanding and hiring.  Wages are going up in Manufacturing also.  I know every car parts manufacturer and both VW and Nissan are hiring in my area.

That said, Harley is doing the opposite as the rest of manufacturing.  Harley sales are way down.  Production is way down.  They will be lucky to keep their jobs.  The blame is not only Harley Managements, but also the board of directors, and investors.  They did not plan for the rapid decline in sales due to Boomers dying and also deciding the cost of the product has gone up way to high.

HD needs less employees, and less production space, and reduced output.
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Re: Harley union...
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2019, 03:11:30 PM »

Good googally goobs, they rejected a guaranteed 14% increase over the next 5 years, $2,250 signing bonus, no increase in healthcare costs/coverage and retirement incentives for eligible to retire?  Even with the downturn in motorcycle sales, they got this contract offer.  My, my, my...sounds like a great contract to me but what do I know... :nixweiss:

Looks like the machinist and aerospace union were the smart ones...they accepted it. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2019, 03:15:37 PM »

"Harley is scheduled to announce the results of its first quarter of 2019 on April 23. Earlier, the company said it expected to ship between 217,000 and 222,000 bikes this year, the lowest in eight years as the motorcycle industry remains stuck in low gear."

HD may rethink it's offer after the 1st Quarter numbers come out.  Downward.
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