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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2019, 11:33:52 AM »

Have you ever cut the domes down on the wiseco piston to accommodate the smaller cams (587)?  $$$$ haha
I have cut many wiseco domes. Depends on the top thickness and the influence on weight whether it is wise or not.
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2019, 08:43:42 AM »

Welp, disappointed again! Got the big bore kit from fedex and opened the piston box and looked at this!
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2019, 12:33:07 PM »

Look what I found in the latest box I opened!
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2019, 08:51:21 PM »

Welp, the solid advice I received regarding the rod binding is in fact a FACT. I measured the runout and was feeling ok when it was half the maximum which I think is a joke. Mine read .0045, I was actually about to install my new pistons. Then I started rolling the crank around again just to feel the rods and on the 3rd revolution I felt some binding. I could move them back and forth and it would free up and seem normal. I then rolled it around 10 times on 3 different sets cause I was trying to talk myself out of going deeper. It would bind about every third revolution. So now I'm bummed out again but hey, it's not a job it's an adventure! After looking into the prices of aftermarket flywheels I'm like WOW another 1500? I'm thinking about sending mine out to dark horse for the ole true balance and weld for a third of the price. I hope. Any suggestions? Thanks again for the solid advice!!
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2019, 12:31:10 AM »

Welp, the solid advice I received regarding the rod binding is in fact a FACT. I measured the runout and was feeling ok when it was half the maximum which I think is a joke. Mine read .0045, I was actually about to install my new pistons. Then I started rolling the crank around again just to feel the rods and on the 3rd revolution I felt some binding. I could move them back and forth and it would free up and seem normal. I then rolled it around 10 times on 3 different sets cause I was trying to talk myself out of going deeper. It would bind about every third revolution. So now I'm bummed out again but hey, it's not a job it's an adventure! After looking into the prices of aftermarket flywheels I'm like WOW another 1500? I'm thinking about sending mine out to dark horse for the ole true balance and weld for a third of the price. I hope. Any suggestions? Thanks again for the solid advice!!

The binding is the roller bearing in the rods are failing. We see a very large percentage of engines with these issues. Darkhorse is a great choice and they do great work. We use a shop in Oregon that does great work as well as the shipping is less from Ca.

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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2019, 08:56:42 AM »

Welp, the solid advice I received regarding the rod binding is in fact a FACT. I measured the runout and was feeling ok when it was half the maximum which I think is a joke. Mine read .0045, I was actually about to install my new pistons. Then I started rolling the crank around again just to feel the rods and on the 3rd revolution I felt some binding. I could move them back and forth and it would free up and seem normal. I then rolled it around 10 times on 3 different sets cause I was trying to talk myself out of going deeper. It would bind about every third revolution. So now I'm bummed out again but hey, it's not a job it's an adventure! After looking into the prices of aftermarket flywheels I'm like WOW another 1500? I'm thinking about sending mine out to dark horse for the ole true balance and weld for a third of the price. I hope. Any suggestions? Thanks again for the solid advice!!


I guess it's a good thing you did check the flywheels. I did a 113 build on my 1014 CVO Limited a couple of years back. I could have sent my flywheels out BUT I opted on a set of S&S flywheels. Zippers did the heads and the cylinder work. I have S&S premium lifters and T-Man 600 SM cams. I am running a Thunder- Max tuner and a 58 mm throttle body and a D&D Fat Kat exhaust with the quite baffle. In this heavy bike this combo runs real good. Dyno numbers are also good. 133TQ and 129HP. Do your flywheels or buy new and ALSO make sure you do the Timken conversion on the left side case.

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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2019, 10:04:38 AM »

Keep in mind S&S wheels are available and then the whole rebuild route is avoided. The stock rods can pinch again and by the time you get the H-beams (upcharge) and balance (upcharge) plus the normal service you are knocking on the cost of a new crank and sell this as a buildable core on Ebay to offset a few dollars. Better way to go IMHO and IME. Have a look at the youtube videos that show the difference between stock and the stronger S&S units.
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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2019, 12:11:50 PM »

Keep in mind S&S wheels are available and then the whole rebuild route is avoided. The stock rods can pinch again and by the time you get the H-beams (upcharge) and balance (upcharge) plus the normal service you are knocking on the cost of a new crank and sell this as a buildable core on Ebay to offset a few dollars. Better way to go IMHO and IME. Have a look at the youtube videos that show the difference between stock and the stronger S&S units.



Exactly. Not to mention the time you are saving.

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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2019, 05:39:51 AM »

Finally got my crankcase apart. Started to pull the plug on the S&S but after talking to a tech at darkhorse I found out the pistons on the 117 kit have to be modified to accommodate the full width rod to work. Anyone else had to do that?
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2019, 05:44:12 PM »

Finally got my crankcase apart. Started to pull the plug on the S&S but after talking to a tech at darkhorse I found out the pistons on the 117 kit have to be modified to accommodate the full width rod to work. Anyone else had to do that?
Modifying the pistons to fit the full compliment rods is a very easy operation for anyone who knows how to or owns a mill. Also check with S&S, they may offer taper top rods on their flywheels.
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2019, 06:14:27 PM »

As John says it is very easy and a quick change.
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2019, 10:16:54 PM »

Heat cycles completed with a couple of backroad rides. going on a longer ride with the club in the morning!
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2019, 09:14:05 AM »

Welp, disappointed again! Got the big bore kit from fedex and opened the piston box and looked at this!

HD piston? That's horrible.
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2019, 11:19:54 PM »

No,that was a 113 revolution performance big bore kit I sent back and purchased the harley 117 kit from dealer.
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 Ultra Woes
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2019, 10:30:44 AM »

No,that was a 113 revolution performance big bore kit I sent back and purchased the harley 117 kit from dealer.

good call.
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